looking @ all prophets of god, muhammad was the most normal ...

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  1. breathlesss

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    what deems the difference between a false and real prophet then? whether it goes in line with the bible? straight up, that would eliminate jesus from the prophet list
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  3. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    roughly there i think is 25 prophets that are mentioned by name in the qur'an.

    - muhammad (4 times by name)
    - jesus (29)
    - john (5)
    - zakariyah (7)
    - elisha (2)
    - elias (2)
    - jonah (4)
    - ezekiel (2)
    - job (4)
    - solomon (17)
    - david (16)
    - moses (136)
    - aaron (20)
    - shuaib (11)
    - yusuf (27)
    - jacob (16)
    - ishaaq (17)
    - ismael (12)
    - abraham (69)
    - lot (27)
    - salih (9)
    - hud (7)
    - noah (43)
    - enoch (2)
    - adam (25)

    but there the ones mentioned, it's said that each nation was sent a warner.

    there is a difference between a prophet and a messenger.

    prophet prophecises, but a messenger comes with a message (bible, quran, etc.)

    the word used for muhammad is rasool (messenger), the final messenger.

    there will be no books after qur'an, and there hasn't been any since.

    i did, but then i retired from only talking to dickheads like coup.

    other people on here still have things to offer i guess.

    and this topic is not insanity, though.

    any messengers?

    anyone coming out with a new set of commandments?

    to each his own, but i don't think jesus ever claimed to be the biological son.

    son in terms of student, and father meaning teacher? i can buy that.

    correction, muhammad was and is the final messenger/prophet of god.

    there can be prophets of other entities, but there'll be none after muhammad.

    proof? there isn't any single person since the 600's that has been able to claim otherwise.

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  4. zyclon B gas

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    the difference, nu, is that nowadays if someone did come out with new commandments, nobody would believe them. everyone would call them crazy, they'd be thrown out from whatever church they're a part of, etc. etc. etc.

    the word was final, i believe. regardless, there are prophets.
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  5. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    so you're going to ignore the fact that muhammad was the final messenger?

    it's all about ideologies, if it makes sense to the masses it will run.

    truth is, back in the 600's what muhammad preached made perfect sense.

    til this day, i can't find anything wrong with his teachings, at all.

    even a non muslim (reggie) is asking for names.

    prophets and messengers are different.

    moses, muhammad, and jesus were all prophets and messengers.

    all three came down with commandments from the divine, muhammad being final.

    noah for instance was only a prophet and a warner, not a messenger. true?

    so if you believe there would be prophets after jesus, why can't it be muhammad?

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  6. zyclon B gas

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    why should it end with muhammed?

    i was thinking about that this morning. I really find it hard to believe that everything has to end with these "prophets." right now i get the feeling that whoever wrote these books, said that _________ was the last prophet and any future prophet is actually a messenger of evil so that anyone that says anything contrary to their words will not be taken seriously.

    anti-christ? anti-muhammed? probably not. probably prophets who now can't speak because some asshole who wrote the book didn't want anyone thinking outside of their book.

    very strange indeed. what if you were a prophet? would you believe that you could say anything to anyone after reading the qu'ran or bible? you'd be killed by some radical, and any christian would be labeled the anti-christ.

    whoever wrote the books that religions are based on were absolute geniouses. they set a groundwork that cause any addition or change to be disregarded forever.
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  7. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    it has ended with muhammad.

    nobody has put a book out close enough to the complexity of the qur'an.

    but you said that jesus never claimed to be the final, nor did moses, etc.

    it's only muhammad who was labelled the final messenger, and for good reason.

    the messiah (isa) will return, and slay the anti-christ.

    muhammad is dead, and has been for 1400+ years.

    i don't claim to be a prophet, i don't understand your point.

    no other prophet claimed to be the final messenger.

    only muhammad claimed it, and until now that statement holds true.

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  8. snowy

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    He is saying what if a genuine prophet did arise. Someone who was in direct contact with God. If he had the balls to claim to actually be a prophet to his peers he would be treated like an anti-Christ or a deceiver or blasphemer. In most Muslim areas he would be treated like he had committed apostasy by claiming to have divine contact since Muhammad said whatever. There would be people who would call for blood. They would string him up or cut off his head. They would treat him as Jesus was when he was crucified. Or he would be rounded up and placed in an institution and forgotten about. It would be quite hard to write a book that rivals the so called complexities of the Qu'ran if you were hopped up on all kinds of drugs and had no access to a writing instrument as you might stab the orderly. The next prophet may have already died in such a place. His message forever forgotten.

    It doesnt really make any sense why a God would just stop communicating with his people. Unless God died or he just gave up on us completely.
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  9. Nu'maaN

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    yeah, i understand what he and you are saying.

    the same thing happened when muhammad arose, he was persecuted extremely.

    had to leave his own city because of the amount of sanctions put on muslims.

    what i'm saying is, there will be no other messenger after him from the divine.

    if there was, he would be protected by the divine, hence his message never forgotten.

    as is the case with the muhammad, his words/actions still followed by billions.

    it does if you believe in the end of days theories.

    prophet muhammad was the first sign of the end of days coming.

    after which it's on us to figure out for ourselves what's right and what's wrong.

    if you think about it, no new religion will be formed that will be taken seriously.

    so we have all the options, it's on us to decide for ourselves.

    which is also why we would be judged with more lenience in comparison.

    but then again, this will all sound gibberish to you if you don't believe in a god.

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  10. reggie jax

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    it depends on who you ask when you say taken seriously though. you might not take mormons seriously but they have a lot of followers.
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  11. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    do the mormons have a prophet that's currently living?

    don't know much about them, or their "prophet".

    i can't take nation of islam seriously.

    none of us can.

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  12. reggie jax

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    i dunno much about them either, but they had joseph smith
    Joseph Smith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  13. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    he seems like a reasonable bloke, 14 million followers is not bad at all.

    but how many christians in current times know of this man?

    and what do they think of this quote?

    upon reading, he seems more of a saint to me than a prophet/messenger.

    he didn't really bring anything new to the table.

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  14. reggie jax

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  15. Nu'maaN

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    how does that book differ from the bible used by the mainstream christians?

    if he was a prophet as his followers claim to be, why didn't he address muslims?

    he just ignored the fact there was a messenger who appeared in the 600s?

    thanks reggie, my point still stands (despite this mormon bloke).

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  16. reggie jax

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    did you click the link? it differs from the christian church teaching drastically in the first line.
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  17. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    i did read the link, both of them.

    that's where i found the following information.

    it does have its distinctions with some of the mainstream christian teachings.

    but all in all, it seems like a sect of christianity just as shia't is for islam.

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  18. reggie jax

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    Book of Mormon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  19. Nu'maaN

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    brother i used the same page to quote my previous response.

    i've read what it says, seems like another sect of christianity.

    and note how it stops at 421 AD, muhammad was 600+.

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  20. TheBigPayback

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    Sorry i must interject. The religion is based on one event one dude claimed to have. I cant even begin to name the amount of religions that have started because "an angel of light came and told them this or that.

    2corinth 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

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