Limbaugh:Whites in Iowa more civil than BLACKs in N.O

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  1. identity-X

    identity-X No Talent Assclown

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    those weren't my thoughts. you obviously didn't read - or comprehend [dunno] - the posted material



    it goes to show. if the media and/or conservative talking heads perpetuate the myth of rampant Black criminality after Katrina, folks who are probably thinking to themselves "well I'm not surprised" will lap it up.
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  2. Namor

    Namor Prodigal Sun-god

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    Exactly. Too many white people keep there eyes open to only gather scenes which wil help them justify there self righteous premise.

    Its just like racial profiling by the police; if you look for only black criminals-you will find black criminals.


    & how many white collar well to-do white CEO's have been caught in mortgage scams in the past week? How many over the last decade?


    I don't see Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson or even Tavis Smiley dedicating entire shows to pointing out how all white people are devils regaurdless of there financial position.....
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  3. barnizzle

    barnizzle HIP HOP

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    ^^see that's that Huey Percy Newton swag right there!!
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  4. Tequila Jong-il

    Tequila Jong-il SALAD TOSSER

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    when did I say they were your thoughts retard?

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9063708/

    "NEW ORLEANS - Mayor Ray Nagin ordered 1,500 police officers to leave their search-and-rescue mission Wednesday night and return to the streets of the beleaguered city to stop looting that has turned increasingly hostile."

    Some myth.
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  5. identity-X

    identity-X No Talent Assclown

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    posted immediately post-Katrina, during a period of widespread disarray. people were reporting that tens of thousands of people died in the WTC attacks in the days immediately following. media reports always get blown out of proportion during times of crises. they're, apparently, just easier to accept when certain people are involved

    meanwhile, Wise cites multiple sources, well after-the-fact, that question early reports.



    seriously. left click. look for the hyperlinks. protect yourself against future embarassment.
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  6. Tequila Jong-il

    Tequila Jong-il SALAD TOSSER

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    Dear, oh dear. If I was capable of empathy I would pity you.

    What wise cites are multiple sources(though a little less than he would like you to believe at first glance. A fair number of those links are seperate citations of the same source) that highlight specific claims which turned out to be apocryphal. Does anyone dispute that in the midst of such disasters misinformation abounds? I don't. It should be obvious however, even to you, that demonstrating a few examples of misreporting is a different thing than demonstrating that events were generally misreported.

    Peep game amateur as I use your own discipline against you.

    http://books.google.com/books?id=WG...&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result

    The above is a link to page 63 of "The Sociology of katrina: Perspectives of a modern catostrophe". At the bottom you will find a graph which shows that burglary rates for the month following katrina were over 400% higher than those preceding it. It also shows - and this relates to rush's initial magniicent point - how that increase is far higher than what had occured in the aftermath of similar disasters. What odds that it will also turn out to be far higher than what we see happen in iowa?
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  7. identity-X

    identity-X No Talent Assclown

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    How cute...you're citing a book edited by my advisor and a colleague.

    - Nobody would/could/has argue(d) that property crime didn't increase.
    - It doesn't dispute the fact that media reports of people shooting, murdering, and raping was grossly exagerrated.

    The point of the posted article, many of the chapters in the Soc of Katrina volume, and the point which Rush fails to recognize and/or bring into the discussion is that there are larger social contexts that must be examined when comparing the two situations if we are to understand them.



    The reasons why he omits or fails to recognize that there are structural differences are, likely, the same reasons why, again, media reports exaggerated the extent of violent misconduct and why the public (and Rush apparently) so easily accepted the reports.
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  8. Tequila Jong-il

    Tequila Jong-il SALAD TOSSER

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    No. The point of the article was to slur rush limbaugh as a racist for making an observation which you have only very belatedly conceded to be entirely accurate.

    If Wise was sincerely interested in having a public discussion about why the aftermath's of the two incidents were different he wouldnt immediately denounce as a racist anyone who noted that they indeed were different.
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  9. identity-X

    identity-X No Talent Assclown

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    so the social context was the same?


    got it... [pus]
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  10. Tequila Jong-il

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    you do realise that by attributing the differences between the disasters to their disparate 'social contexts' youre just saying, admittedly in highly pussified language, that the widespread looting in the aftermath of new orleans was down to it being inhabited by a shitload of blacks, a statement which is far worse than anything limbaugh said. Remember, despite wise's slurs and insinuations limbaugh only described the distinction between what happened in new orleans and iowa, he didnt speculate about the causation.
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  11. identity-X

    identity-X No Talent Assclown

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    not at all.

    if Blacks were not overrepresented in the population of poor central cities like NO and further segregated in specific areas like the 9th Ward, this conversation would not be about race.

    but that isn't the case. and, thus, there are differences in response and outcome that correlate with race, a function of differences in social location and context.
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  12. Tequila Jong-il

    Tequila Jong-il SALAD TOSSER

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    Son, you just said it again. Also: youre right we wouldnt be talking about race if NO did not have a high black population, because people like tim wise wouldnt be yelling racist at anyone who had a criticism of the conduct in NO.
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  13. identity-X

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    understanding "social context" as an independent variable is far more involved (and apparently hard to grasp) than simply "boiling it down to race".

    nobody in this conversation, Rush included, has outwardly "boiled it down to race"



    ps It's also fun pretending that political commentators use euphemisms to talk about race. weeeeeeeee
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  14. SIZZLA

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    exactly!!! its a matter of nature vs. nurture, a classic case of "trading places" ye know? there is nothing inate about Blacks in N.O. or whites in Iowa... in fact, if we were to take these same people and just reverse their situations, then we would see the real! how do you feel these same people would do if their situations were different?
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  15. Ixtlan

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    There will be opportunists anytime natural disasters occur. Irrespective of color.
    Limbaugh never made a point. Rather what he did was take an opportunistic shot at people who suffered at the hands of the government's mishandling of the Katrina situation.

    Limbaugh's rant wasn't even accurate.
    There has absolutely been crime in the wake of the Iowa floods.
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