lil wayne is a good lyricist

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  1. PiffInDaBasket

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    [youtube]OXVqAn7_YbY[/youtube]
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  2. PiffInDaBasket

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    lol now hes good?

    ok im fine with that, i just cant stand ppl who say he is trash

    cause thats not even possible...he is a great rapper, dont gotta be your favorite but i could never see how someone could say he isnt good at what he does
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  3. Ace the Prophet

    Ace the Prophet A Prophet to the Game

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    This is a Wayne song I don't mind listening to:

    [youtube]B8Le5UXJdyo[/youtube]

    This kinda wayne shit is dope...most his other stuff is a miss though. He's not the best

    As for 2004-2008, I'd like to introduce you to a man named Kanye West, someone who I think held more relevance than Wayne during those years. Once Tha Carter III dropped was when EVERYBODY was on his dick. That year I can say that sure, he was Rap's MVP.

    However, he is far from the best. Good at what he does? Yes, because he's a rap artist, not a rap lyricist
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  4. PiffInDaBasket

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    honestly when C3 dropped i wasnt hyping him as much even tho it was a good CD and had some great songs on there, but i fuck with him mainly for 04-08 shit

    i dont think he is far from the best RAPPER

    lyrcist and artist is splitting hair i dont even know wtf that means...your not a good lyrcist unless you use big ass words and crazy multis?

    and kanye west has been on top for a while too, he is one of the best of the past 10 years as well
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  5. Louis Armstrong

    Louis Armstrong Yeah, it's me nigga

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    Carter 2 was a great album. Besides that, meh.
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  6. PiffInDaBasket

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    he has like 15-20 mixtapes that shit on most peoples albums tho
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    Louis Armstrong Yeah, it's me nigga

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    Undeniably dope.
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  8. Ace the Prophet

    Ace the Prophet A Prophet to the Game

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    As I see it, a lyricist will focus on the words of the song, their mechanics, etc. Big ass words don't mean you're a lyricist. I hate rappers that just use big words and think that's complexity. But that's another subject. Lyricists focus on the lyrics of the song.

    An artist will focus on how the song sounds as a whole. Lyrics aren't as important as a catchy chorus and a great beat. Artists focus on the song as a whole picture as their strong point, lyricists focus on making the lyrics the song's strongpoint
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  9. PiffInDaBasket

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    nicely put

    ill say he isnt like that as much

    but the wayne that I like is different from what the pop and mainstream audiance like

    but i feel you, good post
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  10. Ace the Prophet

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    Wayne is a combination of both, but moreso an artist, which is why it bothers the hell out of me when people want to say that he's the best rapper out there. I'll admit he makes good songs but he's not a GREAT lyricist
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  11. Anonmuz

    Anonmuz Decepticons = Truth

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    When it comes to Piff, I forget this analogy; sane people don't understand how crazy people think and if one does, then they themselves are crazy too.

    Crazy people think they're sane, and stupid people don't know it.

    The Dunning Kruger Effect.

    Piff is crazy when it comes to his butt buddies.
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  12. PiffInDaBasket

    PiffInDaBasket New Member

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    naw you just sound like your mad at something

    go see the school counselor
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  13. Anonmuz

    Anonmuz Decepticons = Truth

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    That just comes off as bad business decisions.
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  14. PiffInDaBasket

    PiffInDaBasket New Member

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    obviously it worked out lmaoo
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  15. Anonmuz

    Anonmuz Decepticons = Truth

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    20 albums deep, the lame should at the least be on Em or 50 level, the nigga should have surpassed them if he 15-20 albums deep; he ain't even got they money.

    Don't post back "it's because they were mixtapes". Pfst.

    If you do, refer to post #73.
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  16. PiffInDaBasket

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    what are u saying?

    did u say 50 cents level?
    dkaald;
    fjkfl
    afja
    WTf?

    50 had to classic albums then just cared about making money after that

    the whole reason hip hop needed wayne in 2004 and on is cause eminem fell the fuck off...encore was so trash

    then wayne came out and had sex with the world

    you clearly never left your basement
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  17. PiffInDaBasket

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    wayne is rich as fuck and he has fans that will kill for him


    he gave away great music for free and deserves a statue and has solidified himself as a top 5 rapper of all time
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  18. Ace the Prophet

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    lol...right as I'm figuring that you understood me you go out and say this.

    Pac, Biggie, Em, Nas, Jay...and that's just what the majority of the public would say as their top five. And as a Top Five rapper this means they were remembered for their lyrics that made classic songs. So Wayne's above them?
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  19. Anonmuz

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    1. If you were referring to a number, use two; not to.

    2. Wtf? @ Wayne came out and had sex with the world. Lmao.

    I don't know what the point was with it but it's Wayne related so it's probably gay and I never cared.

    If it's a song related statement I'm laughing even harder.

    That gay ass nigga need to stop.

    Oh, and you too Piff.

    See that, that's two of these 'o' after the 't' because the amount of your responses are in excess.
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  20. NinjaMic

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    keeps his name out there even during "droughts" and whoever originates the pressing is usually paying for the rights to his 'throwaways' - no marketing responsibility on wayne's side or a label's side to handle it like retail product. rock some instrumentals, put it out, forget it and take whatever revenue it might generate... in the mean time, any circulation is creating name brand awareness.

    it's almost like how celebrities 'make an appearance' somewhere

    anytime you're doin somethin creative, for entertainment, you weigh out the value and appeal of your product. songs that start to sound like shit, or don't fit with your current album/creative direction, random verses you just wanted to spit... whatever... those get disposable, and might not be something you want to present as your full potential.

    ...but shit, if you can use them to your advantage, and have enough creative drive to where you don't need to horde and save your material 'cause it's not hard to make more/better, then why not? it's like charging 5 bucks more for an extra disc of deleted scenes.

    that's how i see it anyway.
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