Lifting weights could be as 'good as running'...

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  1. Baron Mynd

    Baron Mynd Swaggersaurus Rex

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    for all you cardio-twats.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7228896.stm

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    Lifting weights 'good as running'

    Weight training could be as effective as endurance exercises like running when it comes to burning fat and warding off diabetes, a study suggests.
    American scientists created mice which carried a gene that, when switched on, gave them muscles similar to those produced by weight training.
    When the gene was off, the mice - which were fed a fast food diet - became obese and developed liver problems.
    But when on, the same mice burned up fat, the Cell Metabolism study said.
    In addition, the fatty liver disease it had developed while the gene was off disappeared, and it stopped being resistant to insulin, a condition which can lead to type II diabetes.
    This was despite the fact that the mouse was still eating a diet high in fat and sugar and did not increase its physical activity.
    The team from the Boston University School of Medicine (BUSM) genetically engineered the mouse to grow a certain type of muscle - known as Type II - which develops as a result of resistance training.
    This is different to the muscle which forms as a result of endurance training such as running, known as Type I.
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    "We've shown that Type II muscle does more than allow you to pick up heavy objects," said Kenneth Walsh of BUSM. "It's also important in controlling whole-body metabolism."
    The researchers suggested it may be because an increase in this type of muscle sparks changes in the rest of the body.
    Professor Ken Fox, an exercise specialist at the University of Bristol, said that attention was increasingly turning to resistance exercise as a means to improve metabolism.
    "If you have these muscles, even when you are not doing much, you are still burning up energy.
    "It's a hot topic at the moment. It's something that could be particularly useful for older people who may have trouble with endurance exercise, and it can be very satisfying because the effects of resistance training appear very quickly."
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  2. Purple Haze

    Purple Haze pop warner hof

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    lol, this shit is so deceiving.

    lift weights doesn't work your heart out nearly as good as some good ol' cardio.

    the heart is one the most important muscles in the body.

    why even post this crap?

    You think Ronnie Coleman is in better shape than Lance Armstrong?
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  3. Steve Schade

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    "Weight training could be as effective as endurance exercises like running when it comes to burning fat and warding off diabetes, a study suggests."
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  4. LiveFromThe781

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    yes.
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  5. Juked

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    you can't compare Lance Armstrong with Ronnie Coleman...

    Ronnie can lift alot

    Lance can go further

    they are both amazing.

    apples and oranges though.
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  6. Steve Schade

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    I will say though that Ronnies probably very unhealthy, that dudes got to be injecting so much HGH and insulin that his organs are probably just about ready to explode.
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  7. LiveFromThe781

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    well, lance armstrong had cancer..how healthy is that?
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  9. dlbiininja

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    Guess lance should lift weights.

    lol.
    and yea i have known about this aspect of lifting for awhile.
    and honestly i think it's when your doing heavy weights for high reps.

    And the type of running your doing as well factors in as well.
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  10. supacilious

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    this pretty much supports berardi's g flux article...

    just look at the nfl, a lot of those guys are still eating at mcdonalds. but, since they lift weights/run and practice almost everyday, they have a hypermetabolism....
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  11. Purple Haze

    Purple Haze pop warner hof

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    I hope you guys were joking...
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  12. LiveFromThe781

    LiveFromThe781 Don Of The Den

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    im as serious as...cancer.
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  13. dlbiininja

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    shit. sounds like me.
    most of my life. i have lifted and played sports as well. And i always found it hard to gain weight even with the fact that I ate a lot. Even using weight gainers and the fact that sometimes I worked labor type jobs. And I still wouldn't gain much. hell, right now i'm at my heaviest about 150 or so. And that's only cause the last year and a half I haven't done any labor intensive work at all.
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  14. LiveFromThe781

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    it could be because youre not eating enough food. labor jobs dont quite qualify as producing a hypermetabolism. weight gainers dont really work anyway, plus theyre mostly sugar from what ive read. well, theyll make you gain fat easier, but sugar isnt exactly a muscle building nutrient.

    i dont get what people dont understand about this simple concept: squat, deadlift, eat.
    i guarantee before you have to do any special modifications to your program to keep gains coming you will gain 10-20lbs
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  15. Purple Haze

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    you're as dumb as a rock.
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  16. supacilious

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    the article isn't about cardiovascular health...its about metabolism...

    there is a clear link between the amount of muscle on your body and your metabolism...

    cardio has benefits for hearth health...but "cardio" doesn't increase your metabolism...its just a means to burn calories and only burns calories while you are doing it...

    there are some forms of running or non strength training exercise that do increase calorie expenditure after a workout though...
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  17. LiveFromThe781

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    pssh whatever
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    When your working in a warehouse all day shoving around refrigerators, washers and dryers majority of the day I think it would. And also I did eat alot.
    my breakfast consisted of like 6 eggs and 6 pancakes. 4-5 Sausages. Had the mid morning break with yogurt and and fruit to keep the metab up. Then Lunch was like. 2 chicken breasts, rice, fruit And whatever else I could shove in. Another break with something to eat and some juice or water. Then dinner later on. after my evening work out. Which was heavy weights 3 - 4 times a week. break on the weekends. mornings work outs were more skill focused and I mainly worked on light cardio and stretching as well. Dinners were hmm, anything from steak, to fish, or chicken with the veggies. And my ass loves mexican food. shit. So, when i hooked that up dinner was pretty fucking large.
    When i worked the warehouse job I was really the one everyone really came to when shit needed to get done. We would off load trailers in the morning and often We would be sent over to the BXtra to help them off load there trailers. Cause, they were short or the fuckers they had just couldn't get the fucking job done. And most times it was a bitch finding someone who was uh forklift certified. Cause, they would be dinking around in the BX for some damn reason or of smoking. So, majority of the time. We were offloading by hand and with Dollies.
    And tried avoiding basketball games alot as well. Cause, I know that shit wasn't going to help with the weight gain I wanted.

    at my highest weight in high school i was at 145. I'm Currently at 150. I graduated high school in 90. And I'm currently 36. bf has always hovered around like 7-10 percent body fat.
    was once measured with this lil infrared machine which had me at like 1% BF. I even really question that shit. Cause, I know the damage being that low can do to the myelin sheaths. When you don't have enough body fat.
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    When i was getting ready to get into personal training. I read that cardio only keeps your metabolism elevated for like 2-4 hours after the work out. Where as lifting with weights kept it up for like 14-18 hours after the work out.
    And If your already lean that's just like basically tossing water on a fire when it comes to your eating.
    I mean say your weight is 160. bmr is gonna be at like 1600 cal just to maintain that weight. bump it up with a work out. and depending on how much you do it can be anywhere from 1600- 4000 calories a day your burning. you have your basic 1600 to maintain your weight. then toss in say 1000 for a heavy work out.
    2600 now you have to consume that much to maintain your 160. add about 400 or 500 as a rough estimate to just gain hopefully a 5-10 lb increase in a couple of weeks. If that's what your going for.
    And something else i know people don't account for is the tendency for the body to want to be fed. Once you start working out. I have heard it from gym members. why can't i lose weight? Then i ask them what are they doing. they say I'm eating alot more. And I'm like ok. your working out. you have lost so and so lbs. but, your not losing anymore. cut out one of the meals. And adjust your workouts. Your doing the same base routine. Your body is use to it now. And you have plateaued. Change up your cardio, And go heavier on your weights. All depended upon what they were doing of course.
    And honestly I'm a big fan of the heavy weights high reps. Once I accepted the fact that I wasn't going to really have any growth spurts or gain weight. My focus became generating force and power. And for as long as possible. Shit helped out with the sports I did get into. Was a bitch when I wrestled though. dropping down weight was hard as fuck to do. Had to cut back on eating at that time.
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