Laugh Factory Bans Damon Wayans

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  1. nyjohnyboy

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    The actor was also fined $320 for his routine - $20 for each time he used the word.


    The syndicated TV show “Inside Edition” sought the opinion of director Spike Lee on the Laugh Factory’s N-word ban. The director told the syndicated television program: "I think as a people we have to try to eradicate that word."


    But rapper Jay-Z, who uses the word in his lyrics, disagrees with a formal ban, telling the show last week: "I'm against that, I'm all for freedom of speech." He added, "You have to fix the people that have hatred inside their soul."

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  2. Ignorant

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    You can't fix the people who have hatred in their soul. Banning words won't eradicate racism or feelings of inferiority. But if the Laugh Factory wants to make that their policy, then they have that right. Freedom of speech only applies to the government, not private sectors.
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  3. Ethan Albright

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    never has made sense as to why black folks can use a word but whites can't because it shows racism.

    isn't that a tad bit ironic?....

    That's a whites only water-fountain!....get out of here you racists!...?
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    Why would you want to use it?

    It has never made sense that white folks would cry "not fair" about not being able to use a word that's steeped in racism.
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  5. menaz

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    jay-z making sense as usual.
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  6. Ethan Albright

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    exactly...why would you want to use it?

    it's more odd to me that black folks love to use the word. They just can't get enough of it.


    I'm sure rosa parks called her pals the n-word.
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    So... White people create a word to help oppress black people, and once black people turn it around and make it their own, the white people protest and want it back? The fuck is that? Pass the reparations first.
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  8. Ethan Albright

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    Uhh....

    reparations for what?... so more people can get a hand-out for absolutely no reason? The spoiled fuckers of today don't deserve any fucking reparations.
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  9. Ignorant

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    For no reason?

    So building this fuckin' country for no pay for 3 centuries is no reason?

    I'm not exactly for or against reparations... I just don't see how it would work logistically... and how would you define "black," especially since multi-culturalism is in now... then there is the whole fact of no former slaves being alive today... that is if you don't count up until 1964, when the Civil Rights Act was signed.
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  10. Ethan Albright

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    Who today built this country up for no pay?

    Exactly my point. If reparations were given, it should have been way back. Not now so spoiled ass black folks can buy rims or disgrace their ancestors with the hand-out some other way.

    That's the major beef I have with many black people of today. They've been taught to remain stupid and depend on something they'll never receive.... it's not their fault really. But eventually you've got to stop buying the bullshit that your mom's mom's mom's mom sold her because it simply isn't true any more.
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  11. Nam Dekan

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    fuck that give Natives reparations, well those without a big casino and are already making over a million a year per tribal member...
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  12. Ignorant

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    ^Word!!

    And rippy, you can't discount the repurcussions of slavery, as well... you guys act like now that's it's "over" in the physical sense, that we're on an even playing field.

    And why do you think those with a ghetto mentality spend so much money on rims and ice instead of saving and making their money work for them?

    Let's have a serious discussion... no short-sighted insults okay... if you're capable of that.
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  13. Ethan Albright

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    I can discount the repercussions of slavery for 2 reasons:

    1. Those that were enslaved are now dead. Unless you can dig them up and satisfy them.... I'm sorry.

    2. The slave owners are also dead. So... Digging them up and torching their corpses is pointless as well....

    Therefore...what's done is done. There's no justice. It's come and gone. It's unfortunate but giving a generation some pitty party for absolutely nothing they experienced is not fair to anyone.


    As for your question -
    Because they have no role models. The only highlighted role models minorities have are morons like 50 cent and cam'ron. Or athletes... You'll never see BET showing intelligent rappers...because it's ran by white folks that want them to blow their money on drugs, basketball and rap :)...(no kweli)

    And...as long as they buy into what the system feeds them, they'll continue to struggle.

    Nobody said racism is dead. However there are just as many racist blacks as there are whites....nobody ever seems to think on that side of the fence though.
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  14. Ignorant

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    So you think the effects of slavery were eradicated with the deaths of the enslaved and the slaveholders? Do you actually believe that when the physical institution was abolished after over 300 years of existence, that the mental and generational habits were abolished, as well in less than 50 years? How did that happen?

    Wow!

    Who said anything about a "pity party?"

    Pity is worthless.

    Reparations might be an attempt at justice, but it wouldn't be pity.

    I don't think it's wise to extract role models from the media.

    And why don't they have any role models?
    Why are they feeding into what the "system" gives them?


    How can that be when blacks make up less than 15% of the US population?

    And what is "racism?"
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  15. Ethan Albright

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    I don't mean there's a black racist for every white racist. I mean a ratio would turn out level if a study could be done.
    Blacks are actually the more open racists. Showing it in public far more often simply because they're taught that it's ok for them to be racist, but not for anyone else.


    The system is in the roots. White powers told their grandparents that they'd never be anything due to prejudice > the grandparents tell their kids > those kids tell their kids....and so on and so on.

    A black man today has every bit the same opportunity as a white male. And actually an easier shot at scholarships and secondary schooling. Thing is... they're still in the hole because too many of their people have bought the bullshit. So they're surrounded with more obstacles.... the hood, drugs, failures, etc...

    It's not the success they have to work harder for, it's getting away from the distractions. And in many cases the white suburban kids have just as many.





    It'll happen eventually. As time goes black folks are starting to drop the "hey you owe me" nonsense, and white people are becoming more open minded to race as well. Thus now you have so much inter-racial dating today. Which is a great thing. One day there will be no black, white, etc. As time goes it's become perfectly normal for kids to think dating outside their race is ok.
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  16. Ixtlan

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    Blacks have a 386 year history on this continent.
    245 years involving slavery, 100 years involving legalized discrimination and only 41 years of anything else.

    Using color blind policies to erase 345 years of widespread oppression and discrimination? Brilliant!!!

    The public education system is failing us.

    I'm no cheerleader for reparations, but to deny that there is a serious debt and pre-existing inequities still handicapping African Americans today is...well...idiotic.

    But as they say, "ignorance is bliss".
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  17. Ethan Albright

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    ^so you've been taught as well.

    It's sad.

    Until you get out from under the bullshit, you're right... you're handicapped.

    I've got many black friends today that are doing something just the same as my white friends. Same fashion. They never bitched or made excuses about why they 'couldn't' do this and that....because they never had a problem once effort was put forth.
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  18. Nam Dekan

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    if they start handing out reparations then American Indians better be getting something first..
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  19. LiQuiD6

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    reperations can only be handled one way...you dont cut checks for anyone....that doesnt work...instead you put money into underprivilaged and poor black neighborhoods....thats true reperations.....

    cutting a check isnt reperations.....fixing the poor black communities is...
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  20. Ixtlan

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    Again, the public education system is failing us.
    They don't teach critical thinking.

    (Sigh)

    Where to start?
    First off, there simply is nothing to be gained from telling the truth about the nature of race relations in this country. Calling it like you see it is always met with cries that we're conspiracy theorists. Perish the thought that there could be any truth to what we've had to say. No we complain, because when we do we're applauded for it. [/sarcasm]

    The fact that one complains about the status quo hardly means that they aren't striving in spite of the difficulty they're faced with. Check the track record. Blacks have always done that. So please, let's be done with that lame ass objection.

    To ignore the fact that there are STILL inequities relative to every aspect of our lives is well...oblivious and convenient for folk who don't have to endure it.

    Tell you what, do a little research before you go telling people what they don't have to deal with on a daily basis.

    Here's a good place to start, fair housing practices.
    I live in Kansas City where the great JC Nichols pioneered discriminatory real estate practices that have been a model for other developers/realtors all over the country.

    They are, to this very day -- as recently as January 2006, legislating away verbiage that bans African Americans from living in certain areas in this town. Restrictive covenants are STILL in play in certain areas. And Kansas City is one of the 40 most populated cities in the United States (so you can only imagine what might be taking place in smaller cities).

    When you're done there you can dial up some information about the Community Reinvestment Act of '77. Find out how the abolition of redlining spearheaded a migration of many financial institutions (out of the 'hood) so they wouldn't be forced to help with community building in poorer neighborhoods that were predominantly populated by minorities.

    But wait, racism is the giant on the hill who's now uninterested in coming down to terrorize the village people.

    Think McFly.

    I'm not asking or waiting for reparations to be disbursed. Frankly, there aren't enough 0's available to even start cutting checks.

    How about recognizing the fact that shit ain't sweet yet...
    Or keeping your mouth shut when you really don't know the wiser?
    That'll work for me.
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