Ladies.. if u need to be a hoe or a sugar baby .. it's not cute

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  1. GaLaTeA

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    Another one in a series that has seemed cool, until I met her and got close to her. I'll describe her story, one in a thousand...

    She was a diva, mysterious, interesting, the kind that looks, but still hiding her eyes. Her stare could be enrapping, her beauty couldn't be measured, but the exterior is scam, because unfortunately her appearance is deceiving. She changed berets, the high gold heels, mini skirts and shirts, partied Saturdays and Fridays, never waited to put something up her nose, she was like a stoned Smurfette going through puberty. She fell for empty promises, fell for beautiful words, but that's not enough to live and escape from misery, she sought and got a hefty D'bag, and they got stoned and dranunk, unfortunately it was a brief idyll.

    I can't even believe where the world took this girl, thinking with her legs spred wide apart, she honestly thought she'd be living off wealthy, to be wanted, loved, sponsored, maintained as a part of a fairy tale life with her own servants. But she has no credit account, no limitations and is willing to play a bride if the price is right. Another creature, who mastered all currencies, whose culture lays only in gossip literature.

    Therefore, it's time to forget the day when she became without dreams when her plan shattered, it was time to plan and carefully consider how and where from that point on. Instead of a drunken captain flying in her port on a daily basis, not to mention she's starting to be more frequented than the harbor of Rotterdam, A fine lady who can't see a way out of this crap. In search of a bit of profit she wants to be the elite, but those people couldn't care less what happens to her. And so the beautiful Snow White becomes a narco-sugar-baby, hidden from the public.

    Thousands of people, thousand faces tell their story, but a person closes their eyes, let them carry their cross, one story with thousands to share, but at the end of the day I have no power to change one person, because after all, each person lives their life in their way and eachperson is looking for their own meaning. Everyone wants recognition, each person wants respect, but there are more ways that that define one life's journey.
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  2. Ignorant

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    Only desperate, older cats with no game are "sugar daddies"... they're simps who have to buy women in order to receive attention.

    I blame them more so than the silly broads who take advantage...
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  3. Ignorant

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    I see Dex is still trying to be a morality policeman... :funny:
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    I hear ya, ma... I like square chicks, but with some edge to them... she can't frown at me nor lecture me when I spark up a blunt... it would be cool if she'd hit it, too, but she doesn't have to...

    It sounds like what you're describing is the traditional alpha male... the leader, the provider, the protector... that's the conundrum facing many black males today... too often, the squares are the pussies with no backbone, because they're mama's boys... and the ultra masculine, alpha types are the street cats with dirt on them... although not all street cats are hard.

    I'm actually a little bit of both myself... half square, half street... I grew up on both sides of the track... in the hood and in the 'burbs... I have book smarts and street smarts, so I kinda prefer a woman who is similar... but I do admire square chicks more because ultimately, I really don't want a woman who is as dirty as me. I want her to be better than me, but she can't be judging me and shit and giving me hassle... I'll get there, but at my own pace.
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  5. lyricalpriest

    lyricalpriest Rap Games Dawson Creek

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    the problem with society today is men are "effeminated" by law, by peers etc..

    the woman has all say in what or where the baby lives..

    the man can't afford to take care of a lady and a child at the same time b/c that's unrealistic in today's economy (more often then not the woman wants a lifestyle the man can't provide) so the woman rejects the man that would be there for her and turns to the thug b/c he don't have to pay her bills he just gotta get her hi or drunk then he fucking..

    but, i find woman that use men for their money unattractive and under par when it comes to being a team mate. or life mate .. in the end the man gotta have boundries. the woman wanna step over them boundries b/c she gotta have boundries. and instead of being even there is always a fight for power. this is why society is lacking in the relationship department these days
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  6. Ignorant

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    Not all the time... most states do have an automatic custody law for mothers when you're in a co-habitative relationship, but not for marriage... if she separates and wants to take baby with her or puts you out and keep baby, then she has to file for a divorce and WIN custody... in the meantime, you can scoop your kid up and chill... custody is still shared.... but that's only when you're married... which is why I never wanted to have a "baby mama" or a child with a woman I was just dating, because the laws do favor the women.
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  7. lyricalpriest

    lyricalpriest Rap Games Dawson Creek

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    here's my claim for why men can't afford to pay child support:

    let's say the man is order to pay 400$ a month child support:

    he makes 20$ an hour this is far above average:

    he works 40 hours a week

    160 hours a month = 3,200 -let's say 200 for taxes.

    3,000 - 400 = 2,600

    minus 300 for car payment minus 200 for insurance

    2,100 - 1,000 (for rent) = 1,100

    1,100- 150 for electricity = 950

    - 130 for cell phone = 820
    -400 (for gas) = 420
    -250 (food) = 170

    and this excludes any internet or cable or any entertainment..

    and chances are if you make 20$ an hour your paying far more then 400$ in support a month..

    i was ordered 200$ at one point when i was earning 9.50 a hour.

    this scenario left the fortunate man that made 20$ an hour with 170$ @ end of month.

    the mother that's on child support get's her wage, childsupport and sometimes housing and food.. when the man doesn't get any government assistance.

    imagine if you didn't make 20$ an hour and you made 10$ an hour.. you wouldt be able to have your own apartment or car or insurance or one or the other.
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  8. lyricalpriest

    lyricalpriest Rap Games Dawson Creek

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    and your a smart man for that reason.... and im not saying it's 100% men are effimnated although it is much more obvious in this day and age compared to let's say 100 years ago.. the man isn't important for anything then providing. and more often then not woman are favoured in the job field, mens jobds are being outsourced and unemployment isn't a guarantee .. the law puts woman in a position above the man, but the job field is supposed to make them equal.

    it's a catch 22.. b/c a lot of the time you see this the woman coheirs the man to hit her then she calls the cops.. shit sometimes she even hits him first but since he's a man he's automatically criminalized..

    (sorry to go off topic)
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  9. GaLaTeA

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    Lp, capitalism is just a transitional economic period in the hundreds of hundreds of years in millennial development of mankind and throwing the blame on a man time and time again is just an excuse to just be escaping towards a collective responsibility, rather than to just get make sure we plant roots for an individual one. Responsibility of course. Perhaps it's a possibility that capitalism is also able to (but do not say that either is good or that is a fair system) teach people that they are simply responsible for everything on their own.

    Sometimes I simply can't believe that today's generation that has never even seen or felt socialism, has a completely socialist thought process. The fact that it's a man's job or a state's job to take care of everything is just that.

    Daily, I meet people, especially women who try to sell me stories of their poverty and helplessness, and I always seem to ask the same question: "What the did you do in the last 10 years (not in two, ten !!!), to be more employable? What new language did you learn, which computer software programe have you mastered anew, did you at least learn naything about economics, social systems, laws, which new service have you mastered?"

    The point is, that we (unfortunately probably) made society that is developing with an amazing speed. This is probably wrong, but we're stuck with this. It's the result of our greed, jealousy, envy and abilities of adopting each and every idiotic mentality. And people will have to change, or else a war will. Change by force.

    So the problem isn't capitalism, nor is the problem in incompetent politicians, tycoons, the problem is in people. All of that said are only our mirrors, even if you acknowledge it a little more or a little less.

    Women need to stop with the sugar-baby shannanigans and start working for themselves, create careers, and when there's enough financial and other means, have children.
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  10. GaLaTeA

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    The cost per condom ranges from as little as 20¢ to $2.50 each.
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  11. Ignorant

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    I agree... the courts are sexist, but there are some male family court judges who are fed up with the favorable treatment to mothers (because they're fathers themselves) and are actually ruling more in the favor for men... but you have to fight it... a lot of men don't get custody, because they don't pursue it... they think they won't win...

    What I don't like and what needs to be changed is how some women can get free lawyers from DSS or other public assistance programs to fight their custody/support battles for them when that isn't available to men... and the woman can be making 6 figures, too... she doesn't have to be poor...
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    That's not a remedy for a sexist and unfair family court system that favors women.

    Condoms are for people who don't want to have children or catch diseases.

    However, if you're a man who wants to have children and you make a decision to have a child with a woman, you should be treated fairly in custody and support situations if that relationship doesn't work out.
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  13. GaLaTeA

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    ...why have a child, if knowing the relationship won't work out? It's setting yourself up for disaster.

    But I agree, it should be judged fairly when custody is concerned, unless the circumstances dictate otherwise.
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  14. Ignorant

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    Because no one can predict the future... that's like saying, why live your life to the fullest, knowing that you can die any day. You live your life, make decisions and hope for the best. Sometimes, you choose right... sometimes you choose wrong... but if a child results from that relationship... no matter what... it needs the PRESENCE, care, love and support from BOTH parents... the court shouldn't reward vindictive parents nor isolate parents from their children nor affect their ability to earn a living if they aren't a real physical and emotional danger to that child.
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    I can fully agree with your post...

    If and when I get placed this helpless, wailing thing into my hands, which will have me wrapped around it's finger for the next quarter-century and cause me to know worry, like I haven't known worry before ~ it'll be because of the result of (a.) me actually wanting to have a successor, which will be loved and taken care of to the best of my abilities, and (b.) I'll only consider having offspring if both me&my partner decide that we're up for it, and if all requirements are met. However I'd never consider having a child if I knew that the relationship won't be a stable one, since I have no intentions nor wishes of dragging a child through court proceedings, and turning that being into a tug'o'war to be extorted with on a number of levels.
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  16. Ignorant

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    That's just the thing... you don't know... unless you're both committed to working it out regardless.
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    ..."working it out" would indicate preexisting discourse and unresolved issues. If a couple isn't on the same page, that's a problem.
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    i have two baby's by two separate woman.. i was 100% sure the first would work out. up until the point i didn't talk or hear from her in a year and found out she had another baby on the way.. were then i waited 3-4 years between finding another and being 100% sure (i even was convinced god was in favor) that the second would work.. no thought's of problems or anything.. we seperated last june.. it wasn't up until a month ago i realized she ain't coming back and that she want's me to be daycare when she goes out.. a financial supporter when she goes out.. and has the say in when i can or can't see my daughter b'c like Ignorant said previously im too scared to take her to court fearing that i will lose. or it will cost me more time and money to fight for something i won't like the outcome..

    and at this point i'd take either baby moma back for the sake of my children and making things work.. it wasn't that our relationship was toxic.. it's that we were all imature financially and it ended up destroying any future for our family

    something that could be corrected right? well sometimes love aint enough and sometimes money don't come fast enough
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    lyricalpriest Rap Games Dawson Creek

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    btw i agree 100% with what gal and ignorant said in previous posts.. it makes me feel a lot better knowing that i'm not alone on this subject
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  20. GaLaTeA

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    You don't exactly have to take her to court, since a process of mediation could be nough for you two to work out a 50/50 schedule of who get's the child when, in case that doesn't work, I can try and point you in the direction of best legal represantation.

    And honestly, you'll have to politely put your foot down, I know you have to pay child support, however you are not a bank for shelling out party allowance.
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