Discussion in 'Hip-Hop Central' started by SoulFood, Feb 21, 2005.
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his production is ill but im not big on rappin about poo poo flies on your farhead and weird shit like that
He's not even the greatest rapper from the Bronx.
Id agree he's one of the best ever.. he's been in it so long released so many albums touched so many subject's gone through so many persona's never bitten anyone, even though he's never really touched on anything in reality .. hes the only rapper that can actually say he's
"PSYCHO" and have the credentials to back it.. since he spent a lot of time commited in a mental asylum in new york.. so yeah he is ill and one of the best ever.
ive only ever heard kool keith and it was on a ultramagnetic track, whenever ive looked for critical beatdown its eluded me and when ive seen it ive never had enough money and dr octagon is £16 in my local hmv and in my cuzins, FUCK THAT! so i will reserve judgement
Don't forget El-P is a beatmaking master...Hahahaha
You faggot... Kool Keith isn't a dope MC.
yeah and who is...game?fuck off butch coolidge nobody takes you seriously...you think eminem show is the sergeant pepper's lonely hearts club band of hip-hop.And yes El-P is.If you want pop music look elsewhere.Faggot.
You can't be serious your always speaking about Eminem right, well Kool Keith was doing psycho raps.. WAYYYYYY before Eminem ever came on.. and again Kool Keith is an actual Psycho..
Actually come to think of it.. "Slim Shady" from the slim shady lp, would have made a dope collab with Kool Keith, but Keith don't do pop and that's the way slim has gone.
El-P's a faggot who can't be musical....HE SUCKS.
And Game's better than Octagon...fo sho
Beein' a psycho don't make u a dope MC.
Eminem is great cuz of his flows, his rhyme schemes, his deliveries, his voice...No way cuz of his "Slim Shady" style...You moron.
eminem is 100x better of a rapper/lyricist/emcee than kool keith
its so funny how all the haters are the ones always bringin ems name into every argument
kool keith is not that great, hes funny, entertaining, creative and sometimes his beats are ill but best emcee ever is just the dumbest thing i ever heard
you all act like this new spacenerd style of beatmaking (ex. elp) and white emo poetry is true hip hop like its the roots of it or something. Look back on history its been black emcees makin party tracks and speaking about social issues, life in the streets, and a bunch of other shit but not even close to this Aesop Rock, Eyedea bullshit
you faggots crack me up sometimes
kool keith might be the best rapper of all time in the genre you nerds love since hes been doin it for so long
funniest thing is that all the ppl sayin that ppl dont anything about hip hop and that mainstream music sucks are all white kids that probably were brought into rapmusic because of eminem
come to think of it, and this is a fact. THERE WOULD BE NO AESOP ROCK OR ATMOSPHERE IF IT WASNT FOR EMINEM
kool keith is not a nerd type rapper and he is a pioneer.if it hasn't been for critical beatdown(which i consider kinda overrated),only god knows how hip-hop would be.and a list of someone of the greatest mc's ever:
06. Masta Ace
Severely under appreciated and supremely versatile in equal measures, this Juice Crew veteran is an excellent lyricist with a style that’s simply a joy to listen to. Whether dropping witty yet conscious observations on life in the ghetto, or spitting wicked rebuttals towards wack mcs, Ace epitomises everything that true hip-hop artists and fans alike should stand for.
05. Kool Keith
Perhaps the most original and almost certainly the least predictable of mcs to forge a lengthy hip-hop career, Kool Keith’s complex metaphors, obscure wordplay and diverse subject matter make for a unique and thoroughly entertaining discography. Kool Keith is hip-hop’s own enigma and a legendary mc to boot.
04. Big Daddy Kane
Whether spitting fierce battle rhymes, playing the “Smooth Operator”, or preaching afrocentric awareness, Kane has always sounded at home on the mic. Even 15 years on from his debut, it’s difficult to think of more than a handful of mcs who commanded the microphone with anything like the power, presence and confidence that the young Kane possessed. With wordplay & punch lines to die for, not to mention flow for days, when it came down to bragging, BDK may well have been the most ruthlessly dope mc around.
Experimental and introspective, Common is an mc unfazed by the usual boundaries that separate one genre of music from the next. Never losing sight of his hip-hop roots, he continues to make musical decisions that would generally be frowned upon, were they to be undertaken by a less respected mc. Thankfully, Common has the necessary skills to carry out these grandiose plans without alienating his core audience.
His smooth delivery and well-rounded rhyming ability are vastly aided by his incorporation of more poetic elements into the structure of his verses. Both complex and candid, his soulful, intelligent rhymes and diverse range of material make him one of the most respected mcs in hip-hop today.
“The Teacher” is a bundle of contradictions and has regularly been embroiled in controversy. Regardless of this, or perhaps even partly as a result of it, he has arguably been the most important and heavily respected servant of hip-hop over the last 15+ years.
KRS has been angry, violent, jubilant, conscious, political, revolutionary. . . you name it, he’s expressed it! With numerous classics under his belt, and all the necessary skills to back up his outspoken nature, Kris is truly one of the greatest.
Claiming that he is “hip-hop” may have raised a few eyebrows a little while back, but in hindsight, there’s little doubting that any other mc has contributed more to the music or the culture than KRS-One.
Since the foundation years of hip-hop, if any one person has had a direct influence on the way the music has changed, that man is most certainly Rakim. In short, “The R” switched the sound and direction of hip-hop forever. His smooth style of flow was virtually unheard of prior to “Paid in Full” being released, but Rakim understood that it was possible to flow along with the music, rather than competing against it.
In addition, Rakim incorporated political, social and philosophical commentary at a level that had barely been touched upon until this point. He touched on Black History before the likes of Public Enemy and BDP, while his sombre flow and ghetto philosophising paved the way for the likes of Nas, Wu-Tang Clan, 2Pac and, to a certain degree, just about every “new school” artist around.
Aside from all this though, the most important reason for Rakim occupying the #1 spot simply boils down to him being an incredible mc. With his cleverly selected metaphors, elaborately crafted rhymes, and effortlessly mesmerising flow, he’s about as close to being the “perfect” mc as any one is ever likely to come.
rapmusic.com fucking sucks.all the people don't know shit.aesop rock and el-p is way more artistic than the mainstream of today and thats y i like them(not much aesop but el-p is great).and people who like good quality music like them and also big artists.i won't talk to a guy like you who probably never heard a record like mantronix or stetsasonic in his life.now thats real hip-hop.not this fiddy bullshit.Stetsasonic is real hip-hop.
I definately think Kool Keith is one of the best not only has he rapped under the name kool keith but also under numerous aliases and still puts out very unique and good music.
eminem has a great voice???are you def or something.and eminem would wish to write as concepts,change personas,has flows,deliveries as keith.I mean this guy is saying that game is better than octagon,how biased can he be?and he says fo sho.whats next saying linkin park are better than sly 7 the family stone?
atmsphere existed before eminem blew up.there would be no eminem if it wasn't for beastie boys.
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