Joba Chamberlain is the best pitcher in the MLB...HANDS DOWN

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  1. Fatal is back

    Fatal is back New Member

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    Carmona been gettin smoked since he came back from injury. Indians bullpen a joke lmao.
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  2. wilmer deryou

    wilmer deryou New Member

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    lol jason bay 4-5 tonite..fuck manny!
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  3. Old Soul

    Old Soul Nipple Nibbler

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    lol Manny went 4-5 the other night with a homer. Ahead of the game.
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  4. Old Soul

    Old Soul Nipple Nibbler

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    BTW, Joba saw James Andrews today to look @ his shoulder.
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  5. Cognitive D.K

    Cognitive D.K New Member

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    huh?

    youre fuckin trippin wtf

    dude has 13 wins - 3.73 era

    and wang is OK but fuck if hes top 7

    dude is effective

    his era aint that great

    he throws alot of innings and he is good at dictating the count/at bat

    so many guys better than joba the hut

    hamels/sebathia/zambrano/webb/haren/lincecum/harden/santana/volquez/peavey/duscherer/kazmir/lackey
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  6. Cognitive D.K

    Cognitive D.K New Member

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    too many casual fans think that k's mean everything

    k's are a glory stat , the only time they are really meaningful is to get out of a jam when you cant afford a deep fly , but they dont guarantee success, old soul aka recluse , youre my boy but u put WAAAAYYYY too much stock in k's and k/9

    k's also raise your pitch count because you are throwing AT LEAST 3 pitches but likely more to get that one out

    the key to being a great pitcher is dictating the at bat.... making guys swing at your pitch and doing something shitty with it, popping it up, drooping a lazy fly out to shallow outfield etc

    pitchers in the mlb become better when they realize its not about blowing everybody away and striking everyone out but learning how to PITCH , not THROW
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  7. Le'Negro'ttuce

    Le'Negro'ttuce Stayin Crispy

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    Fucking Hamels is a beast. Plus hes a lefty, I'll take him over Joba any day.
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  8. Cognitive D.K

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    ive said this a bunch of times and shit but i watch him pitch a preseason game a few years back before he was even on the mlb squad (he didnt pitch in the bigs that year , but i took notice of him)

    i watched him strike out jeter/a-rod/sheffield

    back to back to back and saw how nasty his stuff was

    i called him as a star years back before all the hype

    hes legit as fuck
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  9. psunit

    psunit Hail to the Lions

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    Damn Bay almostt got a homer, that ball traveled on that wall for a good bit before it was grabbed.
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  10. wilmer deryou

    wilmer deryou New Member

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    how u not put lester in that convo...but yet guys like volquez and duscherer

    for a career jon lester is 21-5...a full season thats a cy young candiate

    but this yr

    10-3 with a 3.15 era...2 complete games..one shutout in New York and another no hitter

    against tampa bay..he's 2-0 with a 1.46 era

    against new york he's 2-0 with a 1.13 era

    the competition in the division

    he's up there in the best pitchers right now ..he started slow but he's been a beast lately

    dudes gonna be a ace pretty soon..if not this yr
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  11. Old Soul

    Old Soul Nipple Nibbler

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    Dempster = Volquez
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  12. Cognitive D.K

    Cognitive D.K New Member

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    dempster has become a good pitcher

    volquez has better stuff

    again, the difference between being a thrower and a pitcher, dempster has matured in his mound presence
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  13. Niggedawgg

    Niggedawgg New Member

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    gotta love the Ryan Dempster glove twist
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  14. Old Soul

    Old Soul Nipple Nibbler

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    Yea that shit is magical
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  15. Cognitive D.K

    Cognitive D.K New Member

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    nah its annoying and contrived as shit

    but whatever works i guess
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  16. Old Soul

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    It annoys the hitters, it is magical.

    Joba to the DL, gonna miss a few starts.
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  17. Cognitive D.K

    Cognitive D.K New Member

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    AT LEAST A FEW STARTS

    i think were not getting the whole story, you dont go see a specialist for a routine injury/stiffness/soreness etc

    something is up imo
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  18. Old Soul

    Old Soul Nipple Nibbler

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    Oh fa sho, you go to Andrews and your season is usually finished.
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  19. Cognitive D.K

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    awfully young to be having arm trouble

    hamels overcame it when his shit was fucked up at 18,19,20

    wood kinda overcame it at least enough to be a closer

    liriano looks like hes on the right path

    prior will never be the same, mulder willl never be the same

    carpenter looks like hes gonna beat his second serious arm injury...so far hes been very dominating
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  20. Newportz

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    Especially Peavy who I still believe is the best pitcher in the league...One of the only pitchers in the game with a sub- 2.75 E.R.A. that's barely above .500...

    It's ridiculous..

    May & june were especially rough for him though..


    Kazmir isn't looking any better then a AAA ace that last couple of months...


    edit: Need to add Halladay to that list as well..
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