Discussion in 'Sports Central' started by As Seen On Tv, Jul 30, 2008.
Carmona been gettin smoked since he came back from injury. Indians bullpen a joke lmao.
lol jason bay 4-5 tonite..fuck manny!
lol Manny went 4-5 the other night with a homer. Ahead of the game.
BTW, Joba saw James Andrews today to look @ his shoulder.
youre fuckin trippin wtf
dude has 13 wins - 3.73 era
and wang is OK but fuck if hes top 7
dude is effective
his era aint that great
he throws alot of innings and he is good at dictating the count/at bat
so many guys better than joba the hut
too many casual fans think that k's mean everything
k's are a glory stat , the only time they are really meaningful is to get out of a jam when you cant afford a deep fly , but they dont guarantee success, old soul aka recluse , youre my boy but u put WAAAAYYYY too much stock in k's and k/9
k's also raise your pitch count because you are throwing AT LEAST 3 pitches but likely more to get that one out
the key to being a great pitcher is dictating the at bat.... making guys swing at your pitch and doing something shitty with it, popping it up, drooping a lazy fly out to shallow outfield etc
pitchers in the mlb become better when they realize its not about blowing everybody away and striking everyone out but learning how to PITCH , not THROW
Fucking Hamels is a beast. Plus hes a lefty, I'll take him over Joba any day.
ive said this a bunch of times and shit but i watch him pitch a preseason game a few years back before he was even on the mlb squad (he didnt pitch in the bigs that year , but i took notice of him)
i watched him strike out jeter/a-rod/sheffield
back to back to back and saw how nasty his stuff was
i called him as a star years back before all the hype
hes legit as fuck
Damn Bay almostt got a homer, that ball traveled on that wall for a good bit before it was grabbed.
how u not put lester in that convo...but yet guys like volquez and duscherer
for a career jon lester is 21-5...a full season thats a cy young candiate
but this yr
10-3 with a 3.15 era...2 complete games..one shutout in New York and another no hitter
against tampa bay..he's 2-0 with a 1.46 era
against new york he's 2-0 with a 1.13 era
the competition in the division
he's up there in the best pitchers right now ..he started slow but he's been a beast lately
dudes gonna be a ace pretty soon..if not this yr
Dempster = Volquez
dempster has become a good pitcher
volquez has better stuff
again, the difference between being a thrower and a pitcher, dempster has matured in his mound presence
gotta love the Ryan Dempster glove twist
Yea that shit is magical
nah its annoying and contrived as shit
but whatever works i guess
It annoys the hitters, it is magical.
Joba to the DL, gonna miss a few starts.
AT LEAST A FEW STARTS
i think were not getting the whole story, you dont go see a specialist for a routine injury/stiffness/soreness etc
something is up imo
Oh fa sho, you go to Andrews and your season is usually finished.
awfully young to be having arm trouble
hamels overcame it when his shit was fucked up at 18,19,20
wood kinda overcame it at least enough to be a closer
liriano looks like hes on the right path
prior will never be the same, mulder willl never be the same
carpenter looks like hes gonna beat his second serious arm injury...so far hes been very dominating
Especially Peavy who I still believe is the best pitcher in the league...One of the only pitchers in the game with a sub- 2.75 E.R.A. that's barely above .500...
May & june were especially rough for him though..
Kazmir isn't looking any better then a AAA ace that last couple of months...
edit: Need to add Halladay to that list as well..
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