Jersey don't need nets to stunt on Arsonal's "Haters Pivot Winners Travel"

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  1. RapMusicNews

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    Last year, New Jersey's Arsonal Da Rebel, arguably one of the most popular battle rappers of all time, made his first trip to the UK to battle Don't Flop's breakout export, Shotty Horroh. The result was an entertaining, flow-heavy exhibition that sparked a bit of a kinship between the two rappers, culminating in Arsonal importing and hyping Shotty to battle in his "Ultimate Warrior" battle league and recording music together. The association made perfect sense, considering the many parallels the two shared; both rappers were technically outstanding practitioners of internal rhymes and extended schemes, both were controversial within their home turf, and both fancy themselves unique, irreverent figures, especially in their willful disrespect during battles.​
    Their collaboration, "Dark Liquor" off of Arsonal's recent Haters Pivot Winners Travel mixtape, is another example of the unlikely acquaintances' similarity. Like Shotty's Dead Bodies and Junk Food release, Arsonal's tape hinges its success off of pure rapping ability and brash confidence while trying on a diverse selection of mainstream sounds. Unlike Shotty's tape, Haters Pivot Winners Travel doesn't add any layers of depth or interesting tweaks to the standard mixtape formula, instead trafficking the kind of cliches that make you wonder what exactly Arsonal is a rebel of.​
    The entire tape is, like Cortez' The Exception, a great study in why technical skill alone doesn't translate to greatness. Arsonal can rap his ass off. Arsonal can craft entertaining punchlines. But, truthfully, that's where his bonafides end. Many of the tape's tracks are shallow, single-minded lifestyle raps about hustling crack and balling, mining territory that has been tired for years without any of the idiosyncrasies or depth that, at this point, should come standard. Being able to rap skillfully is fine, but without memorable lyrics, savvy songcraft, or a unique persona, what is there to show besides the benefits of practice and repetition? Arsonal even joins growing group of emcees in trying out his Kendrick Lamar impression on "Wrong Road".​
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    The mixtape's title is an allusion to Arsonal's globetrotting status as an in-demand battle rapper, which is ironic considering that, as an artist, he routinely fails to take the road less traveled. Taken in small doses, and with the benefit of other artists to offer contrast, many of the tracks on Haters Pivot Winners Travel would serve as a good sample of Arsonal as a rapper, but taken all at once, it's too much of the same of the same. The fact that the tape features a "rap song about rap" track imaginatively titled "Hip Hop" that affects true school hand-wringing on a record absolutely lousy with rote materialism says a lot about where Da Rebel is as an artist. That shortsightedness doesn't bode well for Ars' career, but maybe all those frequent flyer miles will translate into a new perspective.​
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    nnnnnnnnn DOUG MUNNiE ~EZMunnieCLIQ

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    arsonal must be rich
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  3. Wird of Pley

    Wird of Pley I Slice My Own Ham

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    How you get that many views and don't have a fan who's a graphic designer?
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    nnnnnnnnn DOUG MUNNiE ~EZMunnieCLIQ

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    do any url rappers have decent album covers ?
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    I actually thought it was made for this thread alone...he doesnt have that as his actual albumcover does he? like the one people are gonna see when they search for this mixtape? It's TERRIBLE!
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    looks like a nigerian RnB album from 2001
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  7. King John

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    Looks like he made the cover in MS Paint, the tracks are pretty good though, Dark Liquor was dope.
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    "The entire tape is, like Cortez' The Exception, a great study in why technical skill alone doesn't translate to greatness. Arsonal can rap his ass off. Arsonal can craft entertaining punchlines. But, truthfully, that's where his bonafides end. Many of the tape's tracks are shallow, single-minded lifestyle raps about hustling crack and balling, mining territory that has been tired for years without any of the idiosyncrasies or depth that, at this point, should come standard. Being able to rap skillfully is fine, but without memorable lyrics, savvy songcraft, or a unique persona, what is there to show besides the benefits of practice and repetition? Arsonal even joins growing group of emcees in trying out his Kendrick Lamar impression on "Wrong Road"."

    Very well said. Always what I've thought about Arsonal's music. A lot of technical skill, but comes off as someone who will make songs in whatever style he believes will get him famous, rather than make songs in the style his artistic vision dictates.

    Which is fine, go get your notoriety if it's that important to you, but the end result is usually personality-less, generic music that I don't understand how people like (what up Big Sean).

    As soon as you wrote "trying on a diverse selection of mainstream sounds" I knew I wasn't going to listen.
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  9. philadelphiaLAW

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    Arsonal makes standard hood songs? BREAKING NEWS!!!!
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  10. vicissitudes

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    You know battle rappers can't or don't make good music for shit when Cadalack Ron has made more listenable/replayable songs than pretty much 99% of battle rappers of this scene/era. Not hating on Cadalack, but when a guy who is not sober about the same amount of time that he is sober is more capable of making good music than your favorite battle heroes it means something.

    I mean, god forbid Hollowdinininininininon or Ars make a record that is even remotely as self-effacing or introspective as this:
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