Jai-Z vs L Kross

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  1. Jai-Z

    Jai-Z Bangem, Jai

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    Post Sometime this wk.
    16 Minimum
    30 Max
    NO MORE EXCUSEZ
    U CAN LET UR "dot com" BUDDIEZ VOTE TOO. LOL

    ANYTHING GOEZ!
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  2. L. Kross

    L. Kross His Highness

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    Who in the world are my dot com buddies? Last time I murdered u I didn't even like any of my votes lol this kids crazy
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  3. J Keeper

    J Keeper Super Jesus

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    I'm his dot com buddy, subscribed so I can vote.
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  4. Resilient.

    Resilient. .. . ..

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    I'll be a voter since I like you two the same.
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  5. Jai-Z

    Jai-Z Bangem, Jai

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    30 Barz


    He thnk he dope, but folkz.. baby powder dont have the same taste/
    I'll go to his place pushing that White Boy, til yall label me ScarFace//
    This gut punchin'll hunch him, and leave his organz misplaced/
    Wth his heart caught n his throat.. talking to a beat wtha trach//

    Yall see the face, know the name, I get bitchez.. CHECK!/
    Even crazy head.. the guillotine came dwn on his neck//

    Honestly, u wigging out, wth this.. "I wannabe black" shit/
    My ancestorz, were hung from treez and tossed off slave shipz//
    Women ripped from their fam to bare seedz of a rapist/
    But u cant b a father figure to niggaz, saying Nigga.. that makez u a racist//

    And u know ur seed struggling to survive, wth that fucked up gene pool/
    Since u were fucked up from the start.. hez sharing that fate too//

    I'll take u back to the psyche ward, spill ur gutz wth that 2/
    Bcz this mag dont need ink blotz.. to gv ur mental issuez//

    Since u wannabe a nigga.. Ima talk to u like 1/
    U lazy ass, deadbeat dad.. go geta job son!//
    Before ur weak heart, get ripped apart til u feel dumb/
    Bcz ur dirty ass is jst white trash, n a crew full of real bumz//

    I got 30 rackz, if u stacking.. thn yo ass done bet wrong/
    Ive been bagging Lz since forever.. Louis Vuitton//
    Somebody tell lil Larry.. heza wankster clown/
    I'll Kross that Wigger wth the beam.. Wrd Search found!//

    This new JAI is an upgrade.. L lagging behind, whata lame!/
    Not realizing hez facing BARZ whn attatched to my name//

    Im spitting this sick shit, ur n my radius whn this shit hitz/
    Thnk u live now, til u die dwn.. and I raise the dead to an apocalypse//

    Uve been running ur lipz for yrz now, throwing jabz wth folkz/
    U Baby Huey, Curly Stooge looking, dickriding fag ura joke//
    He thnk he good looking, but lying'll get him opposite heaven/
    bcz whn L flip he need mirror trickz, to get close to a 7//
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  6. L. Kross

    L. Kross His Highness

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    First off I'd like to thank u for spitting trash that sucks
    I'd say u didn't try but ur really just wack as fuck

    This'll be fun

    So u really wanna come an test the bull bitch
    But u ain't cookin up the crack he sells
    U know kross is not a sexist dude, kid
    but all u doin's lookin up to trash females
    That's spitting unimpressive bullshit
    An ur following their footsteps to the last detail

    Oh man... Lol

    So u really get mad chicks? U kill me wit that shit
    Don't u realize if ur a guy ud still be a faggot?
    So u don't prefer girls u prefer the unpreferable
    I'ont need dirt on u
    plant u in the ground I'm throwin earth on u

    Is it obvious I'm not tryin [funny]

    C'mon u thirty somethin bitch u oughta quit
    Why she actin hard like she's got a dick
    Only hit chicks? Then why u on the dick
    Of everyone I got a problem wit?
    I'm sposed to get votes on a dotcom an shit
    Thought u brollic chicks was never on a drama tip
    Fuck the drama
    U havin it hard enough writin topics that'll make sense
    Tryna be a dude an bring more drama then the straight chicks
    Ud think after round 1 I'd be bored droppin wit the gay bits
    We're about to be O-2 like the oxygen ya wastin
    Don't hold ur breath
    Ur verses worse then the tsunami when the coast was smashed
    because every single post that u had flowed was trashed
    Who told u u supposed to rap shoulda neva posted back
    You want a rematch??
    Shouldn't the first match had been a little close for that? [dunno]
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  7. Jai-Z

    Jai-Z Bangem, Jai

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    yea.. i murdered the hella out of u. thanx for "not trying".. again. lololol
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  8. L. Kross

    L. Kross His Highness

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    Yea good luck with that. Murdered the hella out of me? Lol I got u too scared to put a decent thought together? My auto correct just spazzed out on me tryin to retype that regard shit
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  9. Jai-Z

    Jai-Z Bangem, Jai

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    U misunderstood me. Whn I said, "not trying".. I was referring to the quality of ur verse.. NOT ur spelling. lol
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  10. DethStryque

    DethStryque DethStryque theInvincible

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    I'll vote on this using the uncheatable RWZ guideline and a bar for bar comparison and breakdown. That way it's crystal clear who the winner is, and it's IMPOSSIBLE to sway or cheat or d/r or whatever in this or any other battle.
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  11. L. Kross

    L. Kross His Highness

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    Remember when this forum was so active you had to 're up your threads or they'd get buried now that don't even happen in hookups
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  12. Jai-Z

    Jai-Z Bangem, Jai

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    thatz true. u can leave a post, come back monthz later and itz still on the same page.
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  13. Put it in my Mouth

    Put it in my Mouth member

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    This needs a poll for votes, but Kross won & I really hope Jai wasn't trying b/c that was bad
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  14. L. Kross

    L. Kross His Highness

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    I forgot all about the poll option I remember when Jeff added that I been here too long I feel old I'm only 26
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  15. DethStryque

    DethStryque DethStryque theInvincible

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    Opener:

    KROSS...

    "First off I'd like to thank u for spitting trash that sucks
    I'd say u didn't try but ur really just wack as fuck"

    trash that sucks/wack as fuck...single/single rhyme scheme. Not bad, decently funny, decent punch, decent attitude, smooth decent flow. Average to poor in every other category.


    JAI
    He thnk he dope, but folkz.. baby powder dont have the same taste/
    I'll go to his place pushing that White Boy, til yall label me ScarFace

    single/single rhyme scheme. Superior creativity, decent flow, superior visual, decent punch, superior quadruple connect metaphor...baby powder/dope/White/Scarface...superior attitude and aggression because "pushing that White, Boy" is connected to the quadruple metaphor and that takes superior skill to craft. Average to decent in every other category

    OPENER=JAI

    KROSS wins humor, ties with Jai in flow and rhyme scheme and personals [ neither had impactful personals, sound manipulation or wordplay, ], JAI wins everything else.


    KROSS
    This'll be fun

    So u really wanna come an test the bull bitch
    But u ain't cookin up the crack he sells
    U know kross is not a sexist dude, kid
    but all u doin's lookin up to trash females
    That's spitting unimpressive bullshit
    An ur following their footsteps to the last detail



    Idk what it is about Jai that brings the fresher material from Kross, but this rhyme scheme is lightyears beyond anything else he put onsite. These bars of Kross's are similar to, but stepped down quite a bit in intricacy and sophistication from stuff I did years ago. And the punches are stepped up, including a personal in the last bar. Switched rhyme scheme, too. Bars one nd three have a single/single rhyme scheme, bars 2 and four have single/single/single and single/double rhyme scheme.

    But then JAI did this...

    This gut punchin'll hunch him, and leave his organz misplaced/
    Wth his heart caught n his throat.. talking to a beat wtha trach//

    Yall see the face, know the name, I get bitchez.. CHECK!/
    Even crazy head.. the guillotine came dwn on his neck//

    That "talking to a beat wtha trach" punch is the standout punch of this section. It serves every other punch. That's it.

    but KROSS wins this section. His rhyme scheme was more creative and more sophisticated, his visuals were less elevated but I had to dock JAI for not coming as fresh as she needed to come with that guillotine punch. The set up had the potential to be ill, but the guilotine punch fell flat. KROSS' punches were consistent and held attitude, directness, focus. Jai sometimes is her own worst enemy when she imo gets overly obtuse in some bars where she'd and lose directness and clarity with her punches.

    KROSS:

    So u really get mad chicks? U kill me wit that shit
    Don't u realize if ur a guy ud still be a faggot?
    So u don't prefer girls u prefer the unpreferable
    I'ont need dirt on u
    plant u in the ground I'm throwin earth on u
    ^^^

    This is a significant drop off from the previous set of bars It's still decent, and even has a dash of humor...childish humor, but still humor...but not as fresh potent and original as his previous drop.

    JAI:

    "Honestly, u wigging out, wth this.. "I wannabe black" shit/
    My ancestorz, were hung from treez and tossed off slave shipz//
    Women ripped from their fam to bare seedz of a rapist/
    But u cant b a father figure to niggaz, saying Nigga.. that makez u a racist//"

    ^^^^This was VICIOUS. It's so powerful because every word is true and dope. The personals she cast at Kross with her first line, the effective use of African slave history in the USA and race relations down to the last bar? VICIOUS.Jai completely bodied this section. And a set of bars like this could simply set the tone for a runaway victory by JAI. Let's see what KROSS has next.


    KROSS

    Is it obvious I'm not tryin [funny]

    C'mon u thirty somethin bitch u oughta quit
    Why she actin hard like she's got a dick
    Only hit chicks? Then why u on the dick
    Of everyone I got a problem wit?


    ^^^This is actually much more solid delivered face to face with personal charisma to add to the bars. However the bars are direct...predictable, but direct...personal punches which DO land on JAI. I like the first,3rd and 4th bars of this section the best.

    JAI

    And u know ur seed struggling to survive, wth that fucked up gene pool/
    Since u were fucked up from the start.. hez sharing that fate too//

    I'll take u back to the psyche ward, spill ur gutz wth that 2/
    Bcz this mag dont need ink blotz.. to gv ur mental issuez//

    ^^^The first bar-couplette is a cold shot. I don't diss people's kids. Jai went in on KROSS and his kid like that. That was definitely more powerful than the [ now very predictable ] punches that Jai [ being openly stud lezbo ] will draw from many male rappers.

    But the second bar couplette was too oblique. I guarantee that Jai and I are among the too few people who got this section.And tht psyche ward/ink blotz/mental issuez joint had crazy potential for more direct KO punch power.

    I call this section an overall tie, with similar hits and misses. KROSS was more consistent, but wasn't very fresh or creative. JAI's opener was much stronger with the personal, but fell off due to being too oblique with the second bar-couplette.


    KROSS

    I'm sposed to get votes on a dotcom an shit
    Thought u brollic chicks was never on a drama tip
    Fuck the drama
    U havin it hard enough writin topics that'll make sense
    Tryna be a dude an bring more drama then the straight chicks
    Ud think after round 1 I'd be bored droppin wit the gay bits
    We're about to be O-2 like the oxygen ya wastin


    JAI

    Since u wannabe a nigga.. Ima talk to u like 1/
    U lazy ass, deadbeat dad.. go geta job son!//
    Before ur weak heart, get ripped apart til u feel dumb/
    Bcz ur dirty ass is jst white trash, n a crew full of real bumz//

    I got 30 rackz, if u stacking.. thn yo ass done bet wrong/
    Ive been bagging Lz since forever.. Louis Vuitton//
    Somebody tell lil Larry.. heza wankster clown/
    I'll Kross that Wigger wth the beam.. Wrd Search found!//


    Now THIS is what I was waiting for. Back to back sections, first part comparing him to a sterreotypical Black man was funny, Jai had fesh imagery, fresh creativity, strong simile and metas,finally a sustained strong theme, personals, YOU NEED TO STEP YOUR RHYME SCHEME UP JAI!! But that Kross/Wigger/Beam/Word Search was the finisher punch of the best sustained, most powerful section of the battle.

    Jai bodied KROSS with this section. A clean category sweep. a dominating win like that in battles with short bar caps and single rounds are pretty near impossible to come back from.

    And Kross made it clear in his own verse that he wasn't trying.

    He should have tried.

    Cuz he lost.




    Opener--JAI
    Flow--KROSS...harder to flow smooth with the more creative rhyme scheme
    Word play--JAI
    Name play--JAI [ she flipped her name and his name ]
    Rhyme scheme--KROSS
    Punches--JAI
    Personals--JAI
    Humor--Tie
    Knowledge--JAI
    Themes--JAI
    Vocabulary--JAI [ superior use of words in general, plus "radius", "apocalypse", "Louis Vuitton" cuz of the French pronounciation, etc ]
    Flips (in 2 round battles)--n/a
    Creativity--JAI
    Structure (legibility)--KROSS
    Attitude--[ ferocity, focus, swag ]--JAI
    Realness--JAI
    Metaphors--JAI
    Simile--JAI
    Sound Manipulation--TIE
    Originality--JAI
    Enjoyability--JAI
    Structure--KROSS
    Closer--KROSS


    Winner: JAI
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  16. L. Kross

    L. Kross His Highness

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    Lol apocalypse an Louie vuitton huh? As long as that's vocabulary. ridiculous. realness? Really? An how did she get it? How's she real an mines fake? Are u sure that's got nothin to do with how she swears ud beat my ass an compared u to a kung fuck legend? [funny] plus she flipped my name right? U mean she flipped ur corny crossword puzzle bar? U flattered? U see me voting in ur battles? Get outta here 0-0

    I love how he sites her crossword flip of his as the most powerful set. An u can both fuck outta here wit the racist shit cause my whole FUCKING family's black an almost all acknowledge I'm hooded an crazier then most so what's real in ur book I done it all what he y'all done. Fuck outta here on that blackpride Panthers shit u got no fuckin clue
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  17. DethStryque

    DethStryque DethStryque theInvincible

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    In the literal sense, her correct use of literally more difficult to grasp verbiage than you used gives her the nod in the vocab department.

    She didn't flip my crossword punch on you...which was dope punch on you, btw.

    Being hooded and crazier isn't something to brag about, even amongst most Black people.

    As a Black man pursuing advanced degrees in African Studies and other academic pursuits, I find the idea of you accusing me of being racist...rather hilarious.


    As for Realness? On the "Real"... Some of your most salient online characteristics are:

    1. You drop that n bomb a lot.

    2. You claim to slang all this work.

    3. Idk how tall you are but from your pix you look like a hefty White dude.

    4. You have a pic with you and some Black road dawgs.

    5. You claim to have done all this street stuff.


    We don't know if you actually do 2&5. We just know that you claim you do. I live in ESLBC. Where I'm from, real slangas don't advertise or broadcast online. Too easy to trace, and they

    know its a felony. Maybe its different where you're at.

    Regardless, there's no indisputable proof of your claims at this or any prior moment online.

    Now, we have centuries down to this current moment, of proof regarding Jai's accurate historical use of slavery and race relations. She mixed em with real personals that are true about you. Every bar in that section hit home and we have proof for it. Literally every stable minded adult in America knows these facts.

    And your history is poor; the Black Panthers weren't and aren't racists. Huey P's crew
    insisted on legal and social justice, as well as the right of self defense.
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  18. L. Kross

    L. Kross His Highness

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    Yeah slavery has nothin to do wit me therefore not a good punch. Period I captained no slave ships an I raped no slaves so bottom line those bars were irrelevant where he given mad props to her slanging lz? But I'm fake statin what I really do but not even in the battle she had stupid punches fake personals an ineffective rhyme schemes out of ur own mouth but somehow after it breakdown she won. Like I said I don't vote on it shit don't vote on mine jet li as she compared u to. If u really thought she won u must hate me deep down. An fyi I ain't bragging bout banging on dudes but don't act like for a second when someone's comparin white dudes to black shit they ain't talkin bout hood shit. An I got that in spades more then the two of u combined. That's real. I am a felon lol an only reason I ain't scared to bust myself is I ain't slangin no more of course I got a son lol I have a ducking job. Y'all hilarious though

    Lol she didn't bite it punch? How's it different except it don't even connect as well
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  19. L. Kross

    L. Kross His Highness

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    An lol Panthers ain't racist? None? An the kkk just started off as a christian group but it so biased one sides innocent? That's why u can't vote. Lol were all guilty none are innocent. Remember that higher education boy. I got more street smarts then ull ever have book smarts
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  20. L. Kross

    L. Kross His Highness

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    I see ur name still in the thread for personal reasons but this ain't a debate it's a battle an not wit u so please don't post back I don't care. U just told me the BLACK Panthers ain't racist a group formed around an deal exclusivly wit RACE. Lol maybe not all are but white people have been hunted an murdered by them for bein white just like kkk so sayin they're entirely unracist is rediculous. U can't see past it predetirminations an I can't convince u so fuck it but keep it out of this thread this ain't even the right forum
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