I've been wondering..just how the hell did Jay Lose to Nas?

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  1. TheNotoryousOne

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    Preach.
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  2. Imperial1

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    I said TRUTH not OPINIONS.

    Again, I said TRUTHS not OPINIONS.

    I don't listen to cormega and what is this story he supposedly "scribbled" about on his notepad? Care to enlighten me?

    That's a Nas' word against Jay's word situation. So where's the TRUTH in that? And what tour was this? When was Nas EVER on a tour bus with Jayz?

    Another opinion, nuff said. DP wasn't all that nice to me. (and that's MY OPINION.)

    What rapper back in the time Nas first debuted actually owned their masters? Dudes still wasn't learning the business during that time. And again, where's the truth in that? The "I forgot how" statement doesn't make that claim any more truthful.

    That whole barred up statement was opinion based. Again, where's the TRUTH?

    EXACTLY, now tell me some TRUTH.

    That was Prodigy. We're talking about Nas.

    Forgot about the "besides him boning Carmen" part of my question I see.

    All of this typing and STILL no truth. End of discussion. Anybody else wanna give this a try?

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    Newsflash: Gods Son did very well as did Lost Tapes too for an album with no promotion.

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    You wanna try this go-round?

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    Glad to know I have someone following me around RM. Get over yourself and breathe easy. It's just my opinion that you don't happen to like. You obviously care if you got steam coming out of your screen commenting on my opinion. What you gone do? Type to me hard? GTFOH LMAO.

    and lol @ me being jealous of someone I don't listen to.

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    Shut up and answer my question capt. obvious.

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    Really GS, you should do better. [pus]

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  8. THEDONN- closed

    THEDONN- closed pac and biggie rule 4eva

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    haha ay how da fuck can u not feel pac,,,if u do, why call him overated, shit is disrespectful, he did nothin but try to reach u thru his musik.
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    It's not disrespectful to call him overrated. No one was calling him the greatest or treating him like a hip hop god until after his death. I'm stating the obvious. He wasn't saying nothing no one else was saying when he was alive.

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    ^u cant be serious,,,pac was selling, he wuz talkin to mad ppl, mad ppl loved pac befo he died, that shit u sayin is jus wack, yea sum lil kids aint kno about pac while he wuz alive, dont think that matters,,,,pac reaches ppl,,,thatz why ppl call him GOAt,,,,pac wuz da west, biggie wuz da east,,,u cannot be serious about this,,,u jus be hattttinnnnn

    and yea after the 2 greatest rappers ever died young, thatz when ppl started sayin who's goat and who's not,,,why u mad if somebody thinks pac is da greatest, im sure u think nas is da best,,its all opinionz,
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  11. TheNotoryousOne

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    Newsflash: Jay shits on Nas in terms of record sales (before and after their beef). Jay is now president of Def Jam, so it looks like things are going pretty well for him. Meanwhile, Nas is still trying to find himself. Your karma theory is bullshit.
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  13. Imperial1

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    Pause! When did I mention Pac's record sells?

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    Nas still tryna find himself? O so I guess you have an x-ray of Nas' thoughts eh? [pus] And I don't care who did better in sales, when did Nas ever really complain about his record sales? OOps, he never had to. He did just fine. As far as Jay being pres of Def Jam, we'll see how many artist can stay big there. I mean didn't Lyles leave Def Jam?

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    What makes a person "gangsta?" And when did Jay kill anyone or have any guns? If I'm not mistaken, Nas WAS involved in the drug game, that's what almost got him killed along with Will. Again, that's another OPINION in terms of accusing someone of not being gangsta and they can't tell you what makes a person gangsta.


    I know very well who Large Professor is. And it's still Jay's word against Nas' word. So in my OPINION you believe what you wanna believe. You nor I know the truth because neither of us were there.


    Popular opinion also said that Nas ripped Jay, therefore, Nas is the winner of that battle. [pus]


    What truth was spoken in your unconfirmed truth statement when you "FORGOT/DON'T REMEMBER" the story?

    Ah Aaah, there you go with the opinion thing again. Not one truth. Nice try.

    Cute. However, what truth was there to Jay's claims of Nas in song regarding Nas besides him boning Carmen? (for the 50th time [pus] )

    Again, we were talking about NAS not PRODIGY. RIF


    I asked about what truths were spoken, not an opinionated breakdown. [pus]

    Actually it's because my question still has yet to be answered.

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    Popular opinion also said that Nas ripped Jay, therefore, Nas is the winner of that battle.

    Fact
    They left out alot of opinions.
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    cuz u tried to say nobody was sayin he da bomb befo he died, which is fuckin insane,,,ngga sold 5 mill,,,everybody wuz bumpin all eyes on me,,,u dont know whut the fuck u talkin about
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    Nas got married and Jay clients are struggling with record sales.
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  19. ~Lady Fiya~

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    Jay-Z is not more real than Nas.. dunno what y'all be listening to from Jay Z to make y'all say he better than Nas. Blueprint was not what it's hyped up to be. Nas is more creative and lyrically inclined than Jay Z. I'm not a strong fan of either but listening to both artists over a large period of time, I'd say that Nas is crushing him. Best CD by Jay Z happens to be Reasonable Doubt.. At least compare the two best CDs by each of them. Who has the greater sales has nothing to do who's better than the other. It's like saying 50 Cent is better than Eminem cuz he had better sales on a certain album. Just my opinion, no offense to either hardcore fans.

    Nas > Jay Z.

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  20. PrOFouL

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    Damn, you don't know what you're talking about, why you protecting Nas so hard?

    Will being killed had nothing to do with drugs, and Nas was never that strong in the drug game as Jay-Z was. Nas was small times, that's why Jay is more felt in this aspect.

    Let me breakdown Ether and show why I switched my vote. At first I felt Ether won, but the more I listen to it, the more clearly Jay won has come.

    "[Nas talking]
    ("Fuck Jay-Z")
    What's up *****s, ay yo, I know you ain't talkin 'bout me dog
    You, what?
    ("Fuck Jay-Z")
    You been on my dick *****, you love my style, *****
    ("Fuck Jay-Z")"

    ^^^^^^^^If that was true, it's sad he gets the more recognition than him

    "(I) Fuck with your soul like ether
    (Will) Teach you the king you know you
    (Not) "God's son" across the belly
    (Lose) I prove you lost already"

    ^^^^^^^^^^Nice chorus

    "I got this, locked since '9-1
    I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
    Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas
    With Hawaiin Sophie fame, kept my name in his music
    "
    ^^^^^^^^^***** please, he've been forgotten, I ain't heard his name as much back then. Most *****s wasn't even feeling Nas, but brought the Ether hype. Hawaiin Sohpie is supposed to diss him?

    "That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef
    Started cockin up my weapon, slowly loadin up this ammo
    To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle"

    ^^^^^^^^Fuck the rest, let's get to the point it matters. Namecalling, lmmfao@his soldiers I can handle, this ***** better sit down somewhere.

    "This for dolo and his manuscript just sound stupid
    When KRS already made an album called "Blueprint"
    First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
    Dick suckin lips, whyn't you let the late, great veteran live"

    ^^^^^^^^^You idiot, didn't you steal everything except lyrics of "I Gave You Power" from Original Konfusion, now he's trying to say Jay stole the name Blueprint, when it's not even the same thing in form or shape nor idea in regards of KRS-1. I think he was struggling for cool points.

    "Y'all *****s deal with emotions like bitches"

    ^^^^^^^^^^^According to how you structured Ether, you seem to be more emotional contradicting in the same damn song, namecalling and calling *****s homo when they're clearly not.

    "What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother"

    ^^^^^^^^Bullshit, *****s knew you hate Jay from day one. Word that was on the street long ago. That's why Jay fuck'd with your baby mom's in the first place, hating ass *****. Tryna say *****s dissing you and snakes and all that bullshit, when you was on that same shit ya damn self.

    "You traded your soul for riches"

    ^^^^^"Can't y'all, see that he's fake, the rap version of TD jakes
    Prophesizing on your CDs and tapes
    Won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes"

    "These dudes is all politics, depositing checks
    they put in they pocket, all you get in return is a lot of lip
    And y'all buy the shit,"


    "Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
    Well life is harsh, hug me, don't reject me
    or make records to disrespect me, blatant or indirectly"

    ^^^^^^^^Lmao@this *****. "Uh, yo don't get mad at me
    I don't love 'em I fuck 'em
    I don't chase 'em I duck 'em
    I replace 'em with another one
    You had to see she keep calling me BIG
    (And another one!)
    And my name is Jay-Z
    She be all on my dick
    Gradually I'm taking over your bitch
    Coming over your shit
    Got my feet up on you sofas, man
    I mean a hostess for my open hand
    You coming home to dishes and empty soda cans
    I got your bitch in my Rover man
    I never kiss her, I never hold her hand
    In fact I diss her I'm a bolder man
    I'mma pimp her, it's over man
    When I twist her in the Gold sedan
    Like I'm Goldie man, you've been chosen man
    Jigga man, ice burg with the frozen hands
    ? don't make it frozen man
    "

    More on the way.
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