I've been wondering..just how the hell did Jay Lose to Nas?

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  1. Imperial1

    Imperial1 For pressed ones only

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    He loves Pac. However, I think Hit Em Up was a wack diss song and overrated just cause pac did the song.

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  2. Ice Fluid

    Ice Fluid Flow with the Fluid.

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    Word at that..waay overrated, I liked it as a song though...
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  3. THEDONN- closed

    THEDONN- closed pac and biggie rule 4eva

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    song wuz raw, there wuz nothin ever that raw and real...dude wuz really heated, shit hit hard....wonder why yall feel its overated...
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  4. TheNotoryousOne

    TheNotoryousOne Grown Ass Man

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    I agree.
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  5. TheNotoryousOne

    TheNotoryousOne Grown Ass Man

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    Agreed as well.
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  6. absolute zero

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    How many biggie's rhymes, gonna come out yo fat lips?!?!?
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  7. iconoclast_

    iconoclast_ PoorBoy Lover Plus

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    You have to twist a shoelace around in circles and pull it around to make it tight, Rakims flow is naturally tight.
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  8. Ice Fluid

    Ice Fluid Flow with the Fluid.

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  9. CAsKid

    CAsKid ..ThE ReApErS sEeD..

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    man u cats are serious dick riders of nas..i will say this..jay-z has dropped his amount of dud albums..in my lifetime volume three..shit part 2 wasn't that nice...but back to u guys points..jay-z can do both...be lyrical and be on some money making shit..nas is too mono'tone..he sounds like rakim of this age..his albums are rarely hot past the first few days after u buy it...and he hasn't dropped many hot albums..stillmatic was good..but no longevity listening value...and the thing is..nas raps about shit he never did..thats why *****s from the street don't really endorse that dude...to me jay-z is a lyrically mother fucker..when he see's it fit..that ***** said he had to get money..because lyrical props don't buy bentley's or pay light bills like that..shit if u *****s wanna get technical..jay-z or nas aint fucking with beans..when he on some lyrical shit...period
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  10. MC B-Dee

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    id say Nas won cuz his track had me laughing.

    Jay's track was nice also, but sometimes keeping it simple works.
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  11. Frog

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    I didn't read none of the responces, but I will say this.


    1) Jay's "Takeover" is more popular than "Super Ugly," so people compared "Takeover" with "Ether."

    "Ether" was more of a full diss track to Jay and "Takeover" was directed at different people along with Nas. Jay only went at Nas for 1/4 of the song.

    2) Nas went second. Nas was down and out on his luck. People tend to cheer for the underdog, and also Nas has fans going all the way back to illmatic.

    If Nas were to drop anything half-as-decent then Nas fans would have declared Nas the winner.

    3) Media. Hot 97 did a voting to see who one and Nas had the majority vote. Mtv did a special on the beef and in a way declared Nas the victor.

    *When Jay dropped "Super Ugly" people weren't feeling it. Jay dropped another diss, but by then the beef was done with and people lost interest.


    I thought Jay-z had more damaging lines and Nas's lines were more simple like "cockfella" and "I rock hoes you rock fellas."

    But everybody including myself were on this "OMG Nas is back and he's stonger than ever."

    The battle was decided more on perception and opinion than anything.
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  12. E. Fate

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    Um...listen to Song Cry again, the song is basically a result of what happens when he "Big Pimps"
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  13. PrOFouL

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    We have to remember that this world is also cursed with idiots. I still can't get over the fact ya'll like Ether, but hate SuperUgly.

    I think Jay took Nas by far. "Switch up your flow, *****, your shit is gawbage...........tryna kick knowledge"

    I don't even think "Ether" is liked because the song itself. It's hard to believe that the song that kilt it's own self would win this battle.
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  14. Imperial1

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    Is that the only thing good about that song that made any of his disses tight? [?]

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  15. Imperial1

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    I stopped right there. The album sales argument is wack, inaccurate, irrelevant and for the most part, incorrect.

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  16. THEDONN- closed

    THEDONN- closed pac and biggie rule 4eva

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    um u dont like 2pac, so whut the fuck u talkin about?pac tight to me...
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  17. Imperial1

    Imperial1 For pressed ones only

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    Um, yeah but then turns around and makes "girls, girls, girls."

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  18. Imperial1

    Imperial1 For pressed ones only

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    There's a difference between calling someone overrated and not liking them. Dang, you act like I said Pac is wack period. I said the DISS SONG was wack.

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  19. THEDONN- closed

    THEDONN- closed pac and biggie rule 4eva

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    ^then u jus called all his disses wack ma!
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  20. NinoBrowN15

    NinoBrowN15 the 100 million man

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    both of dem killed but ppl always go ether, stillmatic freestyle vs. takeover and super ugly when it should b ether, still matic freestyle vs. takeover an blueprint 2 an if u went dat way u would have a tie..........."jungle is a garden to me" ohhhh nooooo
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