Is Hip-Hop the least talented genre of music??

Discussion in 'Audio Emcee Hook Ups' started by CRAM, Sep 2, 2011.

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  1. k.s.

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    I mean, yeah, he does alot of R&B type tracks and songs about bitches. But when he's really spitting about real shit... he portrays the rawest emotions lyrically and delivery-wise, and can still be mainstream enough for everybody to listen to.
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  2. double ML

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    kanye west will not go down as influential
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  3. double ML

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    nah. he's corny as hell with weak rhymes and a feminine voice.
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  4. KnockT

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    What? You're joking right? His production style was bit so hard for the longest time.
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  5. double ML

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    not really.

    kanye makes a few nice beats, but there are so many other producers much more skilled

    and he should never, ever touch a mic
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  6. CRAM

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    which means youve listened to Lady Gaga willingly, how do you know only her hits are good fool? hahahahaaahahhhhahahaa
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  7. KnockT

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    Nobody is saying there isn't. But he had his own style completely jacked by every producer for a good amount of time. How is that not influential?
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  8. CRAM

    CRAM a.k.a. Ellis Nova

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    what puts kanye near the top of most influential hip-hop artists is his ability to produce and rap (no, not sing) ....he's above average at both, but theres many producers much better than him and many rappers much better than him
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  9. k.s.

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    who do you usually listen to?
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  10. double ML

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    the mainstream blatantly mass producing what's "hot" at the moment is merely the fear of anything original and new and not a function of kanye being influential

    mainstream music is so carbon copy and stagnant



    and ain't nobody real influenced by kanye

    only fake ass pop acts say shit like that
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  11. Turn My Swag On

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    You must be fucking retarded. Youre on ignore for being so fucking stupid.
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  12. CRAM

    CRAM a.k.a. Ellis Nova

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    thank you, lol, u clearly dont know what you're talking about so please do that
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  13. CRAM

    CRAM a.k.a. Ellis Nova

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    u do know u said "only Lady Gaga's hits are good" which means you've somehow heard the rest of her songs, and if they aren't on the radio that means you chose to listen to her other songs and decided you didn't like them...the fact that u call me retarded is amusing and putting me on ignore is just you not allowing me to prove you wrong once again in the future, fuckin idiot, lol
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  14. L7 - LMV - L7

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    musically, overall, rap lacks a lot of shit that most traditional genres have. I'd say it's a lot harder to to compose a symphony or play in a rock band than it is to spit 16 bars, or loop a beat with a sample for 3 minutes.

    But just because it can't really compare to the older genres doesn't really make it any easier. Not everyone can rap, the internet is living proof of that shit, you want to torture someone have them listen to soundclick rappers all day, they would probably kill themselves within 2 hours.

    Writing a nice verse while having a dope flow does in fact take talent, but a lot of the naysayers will disagree. Rap as a whole is a pretty despised genre.
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  15. k.s.

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    What CRAM means is that on the mainstream level... there are more untalented but famous artists (such as Soulja Boy, D4L, Waka, etc) in the HipHop genre than there are in other genres. Those guys are famous basically for picking a catchy beat, writing a catchy chant for the hook, and looking cool for the young audience.

    In other genres, it is not as easy to become famous by doing so. In pop/rock/jazz/country etc, you actually have to have vocal talent to sing and sound good, you couldn't base your craft off a catchy chant/hook or a new dance move. Therefore, it seems like HipHop requires less talent than other genres to be successful.

    However, that doesn't take away from the actual talented artists such as JCole, Jay Z, Kendrick Lamar, Drake, Kanye, etc. Those are artists who write excellent, descriptive, meaningful, touching lyrics that can have a true meaning for people to relate to. Addition to their lyrics, those are artists that can flow to the music/beat with a good style, which takes tremendous talent. Delivery of a rap verse is alot harder than you think, it's not just reciting something, pronunciation, breath control, and portraying emotion in your recording takes years to master.
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  16. double ML

    double ML plekz = wannabe thought police

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    why doesn't ks mention real hip hop artists?


    such as canibus, ras kass, vakill, EL-P, copywrite, crooked i, vinnie paz, etc?


    you a slave to viacom yo
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  17. k.s.

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    I fuck with Rassy, Crooked, Copy, and Vakill. I used to bump their old shit all the time.. but how long can you bump the same tapes over and over again? I'm naming mainstream artists that are dope... and yes, the artists that I name > the ones you named. Everybody on this site will agree. You be the backpacker's fanboy all you want, however, no one will be agreeing with you.

    Dope mainstream artists > dope underground artists.
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  18. L7 - LMV - L7

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    Isn't that sort of a ridiculous claim? I mean what is a mainstream artist, it's just an underground artist who got famous, no?
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  19. k.s.

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    Yes, but that's my opinion and most likely is the rest of this site's opinion as well. You pick the top 5 mainstream rappers and the top 5 underground rappers. 90% will say favor in the mainstream artists. Because they make music that is more enjoyable, period. Which is probably why they are famous?

    Yes, there are many many famous rappers that are wack and untalented. But, we're not talking about them in this specific situation. I'm talking about the top 5 mainstream rappers right now, make it top 10 if you like. The majority will favor the mainstream artists, bet.
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  20. DZK

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    Nah, I know less ppl who can rap than sing.
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