Interesting MMA Facts

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  1. Macahol

    Macahol The axis murderer

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    lifted these from Sherdog:

    Did you know Nathan Jones (WWF wrestler) fought on the first ever Pride event?

    Did you know Mike Plotcheck (Bart Gunn off WWF) holds a win over Cabbage in MMA, and has been knocked out by Butterbean who actually has a win over Cabbage to?

    Did you know Evan Tanner has more triangle choke submission victories than anyone in MMA ever?

    Did you know the UFC 28 fight between Josh Barnett and Gan McGee was the first and only Superheavyweight fight in UFC history?

    Did you know Brad Imes is the only fighter in MMA history to have two back-to-back wins via gogoplata submission, while Shinya Aoki ties with him with two gogoplata submissions? (Pretty impressive for a heavyweight)

    Did you know UFC Ring announcer Bruce Buffer has a Jiu Jitsu black belt and fought as a kick boxer?

    Did you know Telia Tuli (the Sumo guy who got knocked out in UFC 1), also known as Taylor Wily acted in the 2008 blockbuster movie Forgetting Sarah Marshall?

    Did you know Matt Serra was in Japan ready to fight in Pride 9. Unfortunately his opponent got injured by a pyrotechnic and he could not fight. He was never invited back to Pride?

    Did you know the much discussed Fedor loss due to a cut against Tsuyoshi Kohsaka, was actually a cut reopened? Fedor suffered the cut in his fight with Ricardo Arona prior to fighting TK. Fedor still claims that TK used an illegal strike.

    Did you know Fedor Emelianenko and Randy Couture both fought in the Rings King of Kings tournament in 2000? They would have fought but Fedor was cut by TK and Couture was submitted by Valentijn Overeem.

    Did you know Antonio Rodrigo "Minotauro" Nogueira doesn't lose fights, he just runs out of time, 4 losses in 36 fights all decisions?

    Did you know Chuck Liddell was in a 1981 movie with Jack Nicholson called "The Postman Always Rings Twice"? (Very young Chuck)

    Did you know Japanese Superstar Genki Sudo was a contestant on the show "Ninja Warrior"?

    Did you know Tim Sylvia was on "Blind Date"?

    Did you know Aaron Brink who has fought fighters like Andrei Arlovski, Rich Franklin, Alistair Overeem and Jeremy Horn is also an ex porn star?

    Did you know that Shad Smith is the first openly gay fighter ever in MMA?

    Did you know PRIDE 12 was where the term Lay and Pray was coined? Quadros coined the term while calling the fight between Kazuyuki Fujita and Gilbert Yvel.

    Did you know at the pre-fight staredown between Quinton Jackson and Igor Vovchanchyn at PRIDE 22, Rampage gave Igor a note allegedly from his mother that said, "Please don't hurt my son."?

    Did you know in the pre-fight staredown between Josh Barnett and Mark Hunt, while the referee was issuing the rules, Barnett added, "No flying ass drops."?

    Did you know Shooto is the oldest MMA organization on the planet? It started in 1985.

    Did you know Japanese and Pride MMA Legend Kazushi Sakuraba actually won one of the very first UFC tournaments- UFC Japan: Ultimate Japan 1?

    Did you know Anderson Silva allowed Travis Lutter to take him down in their fight at UFC 67 so that he could beat him on the ground to avenge Jose "Pele" Landi-Jons, Anderson's training partner who lost to Lutter via armbar?

    Did you know Rickson Gracie (claims to have won over 400 fights without a loss) the supposedly undefeated in all competitions has at least one loss from the 1993 U.S. Sambo Championships in Norman, Oklahoma, where he was defeated by American Ron Tripp by Total Victory via uchi-mata in 45 seconds? Rickson disputed this loss, claiming he was misinformed of the rules of the event.
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  2. Macahol

    Macahol The axis murderer

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    Bas Rutten is an actual certified french chef

    Former WW champion Carlos Newton went to Med School (not sure if he ever finished but was doing so while champ).

    Royce Gracie was picked to represent the Gracie family not because he was the best the family had but because he was smaller than his brother Rickson and it would look more impressive to have him win because of the larger size disadvantages he would have.

    The Kimura is named after a Japanese Judo master who defeated Helio Gracie eventually breaking his arm.

    Art Jimmerson was the only UFC fighter ever allowed to fight with a "foreign object" (with the exception of Gi's which are now considered illegal) and that one fight was his only pro MMA fight ever.

    Royce Gracie didn't release his choke on Gordeau right away in the finals of UFC 1 because he bit him earlier in the match and wanted to teach him a lesson.

    Bas Rutten's liver punch has more power (per square inch) then an NFL lineman's open field hit on a Quarterback....saw this on The Science of Sports.

    UFC 1 referee Joao Alberto Barretore was an experianced BJJ expert and once broke an opponent's arm, leaving an exposed fracture live on a TV show called Rio Heroes around the 1960's, shocking television audiences at home.
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    DaAlmightyDolla Greatness

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  5. DaAlmightyDolla

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    bas should get a cooking show....

    ill watch the entire first season.
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    Yo Yo Maca TheRapist

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    I'd just like to see him punch Gordon Ramsey.
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  7. Ben Official

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    did you know this was stolen right from sherdog?
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  8. Ben Official

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    oh lol, didnt see the first "lifted these from sherdog" lol my fault
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    Clearly the most interesting... haha
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  10. Mac Sabbath

    Mac Sabbath New Member

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    Also, the thread from sherdog was stolen from here:

    rootzoo.com/articles/view/Mixed-Martial-Arts/Other/25-Interesting-MMA-Facts-You-May-Not-Know_3127
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  11. Mac Sabbath

    Mac Sabbath New Member

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    and you can expect me to steal things from mmacore, sherdog, and wikipedia... especially if I get modded.

    Part of what I'd like to do with this forum is educate people new to the sport and curious.
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  12. Mac Sabbath

    Mac Sabbath New Member

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    more (also from sherdog)

    • Boxers James “Bonecrusher” Smith and Leon Spinks were both considered for UFC 1 before settling on Art Jimmerson. Jimmerson subsequently backed out of the event once he learned the rules (as he had a fight with Thomas Hearns a month later) but Seg offered him $20,000 just to show, making him the highest paid appearance fighter at UFC 1 (the majority received $1000 for initial appearance). During the event, upon viewing the brutality, Jimmerson’s corner conspired backstage to throw in the towel at the first sign of trouble, which they did, but the towel caught on the fence and the referee did not see it. Jimmerson then verbally quit.


    • Widely known: Gerard Gordeau kicked one of Telia Tuli’s teeth into the audience (which flew by a group of sponsor’s from Gold’s Gym, who pulled their advertisement deal after the first event based on this). Lesser known: Two more of Tuli’s teeth were embedded into Gordeau’s foot, which doctor’s decided not to remove for the remainder of the night in fear of exposing the wound. Gordeau fought twice more that night with 2 teeth stuck in his foot.

    • Ken Shamrock only had 3 ‘real’ fights before entering UFC 1, all in Pancrase. It was decided he would be given the title of ‘#1 Shootfighting Champion of Japan’, along with a dozen more wins on his record (which were in reality, toughman fights) to build his stats and help promote Pancrase

    • Freek Hamaker (in a UFC 2 dark match) was a porn theatre owner. He won his fight and was set to be on the PPV, but chose not to continue.

    • The Patrick Smith/Scott Morris fight ended only because Smith stopped hitting him. McCarthy didn’t have the power to end a fight as a referee, and Morris’ corner stated beforehand he would never throw in the towel and looked away from McCarthy when Big John motioned to him. With Morris all but unconscious and not in a state to submit, Smith simply got up and walked away, which ended the fight.

    • Rorian Gracie tried to replace Royce with brother Rickson at UFC 3. The decision was made, but Rickson wanted more money from Rorian to fight. When he did not receive this, he parted ways with the family and no longer cornered or trained Royce

    • Kimo entered UFC 3 only weeks before the event when Joe Son drove to Art Davies’ office, shirtless and in a convertible Porsche and convinced him to let Kimo on the show. Davies’ agreed solely by Kimo’s appearance. Kimo was only a streethfighter with zero credentials, but was elevated to third degree black belt (tae kwon do) for the event. ~ The giant cross that Kimo carried to the ring: David Isaac wouldn’t allow props to the ring (in fear of having the event look like pro wrestling) so Joe Son told SEG that the large box shipped to the arena the day of the event contained special ‘training equipment’. In fact, it was the cross.

    • Emmanuel Yarbrough could curl 315lbs. This feat of strength didn’t help when Keith Hackney hit him a total of 41 times with fists and forearms on the ground.

    • Lee Mitchell wanted to wear boxing gloves in his fight with Shamrock, and even wore them to the ring, but was forced to remove them as they were not cleared beforehand by McCarthy

    • Kimo wrote an apology letter to the Gracies for running out and celebrating in the Octagon when Royce couldn’t continue. Relson Gracie confronted Joe Son after the ordeal and challenged him to fight due to the disrespect, prompting the letter of apology to clear the air.

    • Dan Severn had no professional fighting record to speak of when entering the UFC – and filled out an application in a magazine to apply. There was no ‘wrestling’ category, so he checked ‘other’. UFC was weary of this, and in order to be cleared he had to sign a contract stating “In case of your accidental death, we are not liable.” ~ Severn trained for the UFC with pro-wrestler Al Snow (who cornered Severn in the UFC for a while)

    • 52 year old Ron “Black Dragon” Van Clief couldn’t persuade the UFC to allow him to fight at his age. In order to convince them, Van Clief agreed to enter the New York City Marathon to prove his athleticism, and if he completed the race, he would be allowed to compete.

    • In 1994, SEG took a chance on David Hasselhoff’s singing career and made a pay-per-view for it. The event could never be measured by success as it was cut short by OJ Simpson driving his Bronco on the same evening.

    • Before the Gracie/Shamrock Superfight was signed, UFC attempted to secure Emin Boztepe, a Kung Fu stylist who blasted the UFC in martial art magazines. The second choice was Bart Vale who was a popular stiff-working fighter in Japan. Neither came to fruition, so Shamrock was signed for the fight.

    • Andy Anderson was a self-made millionaire who owned several businesses, including the Totally Nude Steakhouse in Longview, Texas. The city paid Anderson to shut it down, though it was very popular.

    • Tank Abbot got his nickname as a reference from the movie ‘Every Which Way But Loose’. He was compared to ‘Tank Murdock’.

    • Abbot was in-house for UFC 5 but got so drunk he lost his front-row tickets and ended up sitting high in the rafters. His discipline of ‘Pit-Fighting’ was a made up term by Art Davie to use instead of ‘streetfighter’. (Scott Ferrozo received the same title)

    • Tank was suspended by the UFC for an altercation in the crowd with Allan Goes. This alone would have been bad enough, but Tanks’ girlfriend got into an argument with Elaine McCarthy (John’s wife) over the occurrence, and when Tank returned and found out, he approached Elaine McCarthy and threatened to ‘kill her’. This prompted John to force UFC’s hand in saying “either he goes or I go”. Ultimately, Tank got a (paid) suspension from fighting, and signed a letter of apology and since made amends.

    • In 2001, Brian Johnson collapsed of a stroke while preparing a training partner for a pro-wrestling match. He was given a 50% chance of survival, and even if he did, would be a vegetable. Today, with his nickname “The Miracle”, he is able to move around unassisted.

    • Gary Goodridge was offered status of ‘4th degree black belt in kuk sool won’, and a free gi, if he would represent their school at the UFC. His only true credentials were arm wrestling and a boxing background. The only submission he learned in the 2 classes he attended before the event, was called a goose neck. This is the very hold he put Herrera in, only instead of submitting him, he dropped 8 elbows on Herrera and knocked him out in 13 seconds.

    • Coleman had no opponent for the finals at UFC X1, with Scott Ferrozzo withdrawing due to dehydration. The reserve fighter, Roberto Traven, claimed a broken wrist that many speculated was not broken at all. UFC considered bringing out Tank (whom Ferrozzo beat), but the decision couldn’t be finalized, and Coleman was handed the championship. To appease the audience for not getting a final fight, Coleman and Kevin Randleman staged a wrestling exhibition.
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    • Carlson Gracie is Vitor Belfort’s adopted father. Vitor was going to take on the last name ‘Gracie’, but pressure from the rest of the family over Vitor’s skills, put a stop to it

    • UFC XV was set to feature Maurice Smith vs Dan Severn. Pride 1 was held 6 days before UFC XV, and Tank Abbott was set to fight Kimo on the card. Some law trouble kept Abbott from leaving the country, so Severn went over and fought Kimo @ Pride 1. The fight was so boring it was actually left off the dvd release when Pride went to video. Severn also got hurt in this fight, and Abbott subsequently filled in for Severn for the UFC fight, who had filled in for him in Japan.

    • In Ultimate Japan, John McCarthy halted the fight between Conan Silveira and Kazushi Sakuraba, believing Sakuraba was hurt while on the ground and covering, though Sakuraba was fine. McCarthy admitted his mistake, but the decision was made. Sakuraba was so upset over the loss, he refused to leave the octagon for more than 45 minutes during the show. The Japanese crowd was irate, and later on in the same show the UFC decided to rule it a no contest and have them come back out and fight again. Sakuraba won this second contest.
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    is this the guy that kisses the guy in that gif?

    i'll probably read through these later. i'm not an mma fan, but it does interest me. i'll probably start watching eventually.
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  15. toker

    toker My Money Grow On Trees

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    i guess if wanna be technical..


    MMA pretty much came from Vale Tudo which has been in brazil for yrs.. well b4 MMA existed

    my fav.. is the Big Daddy one.. they fuckin lied about his background.. and i dunno if it was the UFC game or a random fight buti remember seein one of goodriges style read either armwrestling or weightlighting lol.. as if either is a fighting style

    that said big daddy did show off his armwrestling skills in his fight vs overreem( the older one).. overreem tried a kimura, i think, an big daddy flexed his guns ahaha.. then overeem went out like a lil bitch
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  16. Mac Sabbath

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    Yeah, MMA goes back forever.

    Honestly, I'm just copying and pasting most of these.
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  17. Mac Sabbath

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    Check here once in a while if you want...

    so long as this place seems half active, I'll start putting up some classic moments threads and shit like that. Get to know the legends, exciting fighters, exciting moments, etc.
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