xabition you know wats up. these guys are not aint full fledged producers. all those vsts come with pre effects. same with motif. they all hav effects. now if your smart enough all you reallt gotta do in reason is add the right reverb to eahc instrument. cuz they are all dry unless u use the combinator patches. reason sounds shit on the shitty triton anyday. vsts are for lames i fyou ask me.