Discussion in 'The Sanctuary' started by TheBigPayback, Jul 6, 2012.
Thats not true. u cant even bring up islam without him
Case an point
Quote: Originally Postedby TheBigPayback :Let me kno if u want this closed nu
Quote: Originally Postedby Nuuman :could give a fuck less if you do or don't.
you'd like to see islam badmouthed for a bit, wouldn't ya
thats his reponse to everything these days
busta doesn't pay much attention
I feel like im the only one who does.
I beg to differ on this specific point.
You taking Nu's words out of context for the sake of making an argument is kind of weak, n'est-ce pas?
@ TERRA WRISTS ~ :welcome: to RM!
Sir Bustalot wrote:
to play devils advocate
most of the time i only see Numaan get "unfriendly" because you dummies provoke him with dumbass questions designed to be disrespectful, stupid discriminatory ideologies, and ignorance. Not only that, untill this new guy showed up he probably couldnt help but feel ganged up on because he really was the only guy here who knew anything about islam.....
so dont act like he just freaks out for no reason, you guys are either really dumb, or just straight up practicing religious intolerance
If this is true then, address all your questions about Islam, to me instead.
i feel this thread was designed kinda like two kids in a school yard dislike each other, theyre facing off, and then one kid calls over a buddy. Two against one is pretty wimpy. Unless its some wimp vs a giant, in which this case Numaan would make out as the giant
I don't know what the history here is, but I don't wanna be the cause for more animosity here... If I am not welcome, let me know.
i dont have any.
Hi Sir Bustalot,
I apologise, my statement was directed at the others. For the record, I think you hit the nail in the head with your previous post.
My sensitivities are not easily irked. I am able to refrain from using bad language (unlike most of you here)... some say I am indifferent, but the truth is, I am in command.
fair enough. so can you tell me the difference between the quran, hadith, and sunnah?
it seems like muslims dont agree on all of them being the "true word of god" such as the stonning of women.
The Quran, is the Holy Book of the Muslims, as revealed to the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him and all the prophets), by God, thru the arch-angel Gabriel. Gabriel is the Angel who interacted the most with Prophets on earth. Gabriel is also seen as a messenger in Islam, so we use the words "Alaihis Salaam" after taking his name - this means "on him be peace"
The Sunnah, these are the mannerisms, habits and practices of the Propeht Muhammad (peace be upon him) as recorded by his companions (may God be pleased with them). There is a book - The Shamaail of Tirmidhi, in which the venerated historian and hadeeth collector, Imam Tirmidhi (892 CE) completed this work which describes even fine details like how the Prophet would sit, how he would eat, how he would address people, comb his hair etc etc etc... it's very detailed. Most of the teachings of Sunnah are recorded in Hadeeth.
Hadeeth: A Hadeeth is a recorded Prophetic narration via a chain of narrators, and is classed authentic if there is no break in the chain of narrators in terms of falsification or weak memory. Prior to the year 900 CE, this was often referred to as the art of narrative. And special importance was emphasised on memory and honour of the narrator. If the narrator was said to have even told a lie once in his life, that narrator would be accused of falsifying hadeeth. In this way, many hadeeth which may have been considered sahih (authentic) were thron out of collections. It is a very stringent method... which is why sometime after the year 900 CE, the stringent approach to hadeeth collection started to become known as the science of hadeeth. It is very complicated and requires years and years of study in an Islamic university which specialises in hadeeth science, to become a Muhaddith.
There are two types of hadeeth.
1 refers to reports of statements or actions of Muhammad, or of his tacit approval or criticism of something said or done in his presence. Classical hadeeth specialist Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani says that the intended meaning of hadith in religious tradition is something attributed to Muhammad, as opposed to the Quran.
Other associated words possess similar meanings including: khabar (news, information) often refers to reports about Muhammad, but sometimes refers to traditions about his companions and their successors from the following generation; conversely, athar (trace, vestige) usually refers to traditions about the companions and successors, though sometimes connotes traditions about Muhammad. The word sunnah (custom) is also used in reference to a normative custom of Muhammad or the early Muslim community.
The second is Hadeeth Qudsi (or Sacred Hadith) is a sub-category of hadith which are sayings of Muhammad. Muslims regard the Hadith Qudsi as the words of God, repeated by Muhammad and recorded on the condition of an isnad. According to as-Sayyid ash-Sharif al-Jurjani, the Hadith Qudsi differ from the Quran in that the former were revealed in a dream or through revelation and are "expressed in Muhammad's words", whereas the latter are the "direct words of God".
An example of a Hadith Qudsi is the hadith of Abu Hurairah who said that Muhammad said:
When God decreed the Creation He pledged Himself by writing in His book which is laid down with Him: My mercy prevails over My wrath.
It is interesting to note that all the prophets received revelation thru dreams as well as in their waking hours.
The difference here is that those revelations that were received while in his waking state were direct words given to him by God, thru the angel Gabirel - these words are constants. And they form the Quran. The holy book of the Muslims.
The Hadeeth Qudsi, these are revelations inspried to him while he slept, and he revealed them in his own words, hence the term - Hadeeth Qudsi.
I hope this cleared things up for you.
thanks man that did clear it up
You're welcome Jay Bee
Fav muslim yet?
fa sho BP. this person reminds me of a real life friend of mine.
that kind, considerate, above ignorance muslim type that i befriended since middle school.
you live a sad life, payback.
Nu in MY fav muslim
let's hope your favourite muslim is a hot broad.
man... talk about a backfire
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