I think the reason most people will bever blow up is..

Discussion in 'Audio Producers Discussions' started by Luxuria, Jun 22, 2011.

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  1. Luxuria

    Luxuria New Member

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    EVERYONE is trying to be a hiphop producer. It's lame. That's why I only write r&b music. yes I will make a hiphop beat but I can do those in my sleep.

    The biggest issue though is people are just making LOOPS and not making SONGS. When I write my music I make sure it's something someone can sing to/rap to and it can be marketable. So many people will just take a whole bunch of sounds and blend them together like voila!

    I think that limits people. No one has knowledge of music theory and counterpoint either. It's not about how banging your drums are. Anyone can do that. It's about making a song...

    Rappers I see you trying to sneak out this thread but this goes out to yall to. It's 2011. No one gives a shit about "bars" or rhyme schemes anymore. I mean we do but that alone won't get you fame. It's about being able to make SONGS! Make hits!

    This is why I don't say I make beats. I say I write music.
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  2. SwagProductionZ

    SwagProductionZ @cocaineaudio

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    so your a producer.. writing music.... dat shyt aint gone work lmao u gone go up to an a and r and say u write.. music den he's gonna say i thought u were a producer.. then your gonna explain all dis crap to him... -_- #fail.
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  3. Luxuria

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    A producer and a composer. Playing a keyboard into Fruity Loops does not a producer make. That makes you a simple beat maker.... Being a composer, a producer and a song writer go hand in hand.
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  4. SwagProductionZ

    SwagProductionZ @cocaineaudio

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    oh so u do all 3? and at least with i have a key board.. lex lugers doin it with a simple click and press lol if u call him a 'beatmaker' and hes makin all these radio records... then titles really don;t matter then huh?
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  5. SwagProductionZ

    SwagProductionZ @cocaineaudio

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    but u r right about the song thing.. look at wiz khalifa... sucks lyrically but makes good SONGS!
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  6. TheTrakAddicts

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    I agree with swag... lex luger made so many hits by paying his COMPUTER keyboard into FL haha... and R&B is not the way to go at all......Look at today's top songs on the charts.. They are allllll house music. Everyone is trying to make a hit for the clubs. So i'd say electro/dirty dutch/ house music in general is the way to go.

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  7. Luxuria

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    Yea i agree with you on the Electro thing.
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  8. yoTrakkz

    yoTrakkz www.iBeat.tv

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    music changes constantly ... There is nothing wrong wit producing and writing. Thats what i do, especially hooks. HOOKS SELL!
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  9. Reign

    Reign Let it...

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    actually all of the better producers on here, produce more than hip hop....
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  10. Majestic1990

    Majestic1990 Peace and Love

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    Lux, I feel you. I think beatmakers should try and use more music theory instead of too much repetition. Like using tension and release, and counterpoint like you said. Which is what i do in my beats.

    Do you play piano by any chance
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  11. DrGreatness

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    The reason most people don't blow up is mainly due to probability. There are two levels to it: 1.) on a purely statistical level, perhaps 3-5 new producers will "blow up" each year. Out of the hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions) of people trying to produce hit songs, you can see that a ratio of 5/500,000 does not make for good odds. 2.) most don't even attempt to increase their probability by taking logical steps: making great music and learning how to truly compose and structure songs, making contacts in the industry, marketing, etc.
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  12. Luxuria

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    I'm classically trained on French Horn and Piano.
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    Building relationship with the people that truely matter is more important then talent.

    You can be the greatest musician of all time, that don't mean shit in this day and age.

    This is one of those debates, where its subjective. Its really up to a person own definition of success.

    Not alot of producers become house hold names over night, without paying their dues in the industry first. It takes years of blood sweat and tear and time investment.

    You have to work like a manic and have some luck on your side.
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  14. Van Alias HV

    Van Alias HV New Member

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    eh i wouldnt mind blowing up but my style just doesnt fit that bill
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  15. WorldHipHop

    WorldHipHop Carpe Diem

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    I think part of the problem that a good percentage of producers have a lack of music theory/wanting to learn music theory
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  16. Luxuria

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    Classically trained.
    Knows music theory.
    Has perfect pitch.

    #winning
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  17. WorldHipHop

    WorldHipHop Carpe Diem

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    Do you sing? Send me a dm if you can and are interested in a spot on Wes Nile's upcoming project.
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  18. th3r3isn0futur3

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    bottom line is.... besides the fact that it's takes ridiculous talent, or connections, or work ethic, or whatever you wanna say...

    there's a finite demand for hip hop beats and producers. if you have even 50 well known beat makers and producers (or 50 well known producers with 500 people on the keys).... crankin out even just 10 beats a month per piece, that's 500 beats a month.

    supply > demand

    if you're not doing this for the love.... well, good luck and get your hustle on, dawg.
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  19. th3r3isn0futur3

    th3r3isn0futur3 Active Member

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    applies to every genre, anyways...
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  20. P R I M O

    P R I M O Shout out to Autotune

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    All the theory in the world doesn't mean you are going to make music people want to listen to.

    Drums, Mixes, Sound Choice, Melody-Style, etc all comes into play.

    I rather listen to a dope 8 bar loop than a masterpiece musical track that sounds corny as fuck.
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