I have a question for those amongst you who believe that the Noah's Ark story real..

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  1. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    1 food and hydro plate theory
    2. evolutionist lies shot down
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    4 Atheist/evolutionist are encouraged to back up their religion.

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    How could a flood cover the whole world ? Skeptics (fools) think that all the waters came from rain, and they often point out that if it did really rain so heavy to flood it would be physically impossible. They are right. The friction caused of such crazy rain fall would literally burn up the earth. It's called latent heat of condensation. Heat is released when moisture is turned to liquid, if it rained enough to cover mount everests (which was not erected yet) it would completely cook the world.

    The atheist assume mountains where there already and that all the water came from the rain essentially. The bible says very clearly that there was a layer of water above the atmosphere and below the crust of the earth.

    The earth is the YAHUWAH's...He hath founded it upon the seas... Psalms 24:1-2 He gathereth the waters of the sea together as a heap: he layeth up the depth in storehouses Psalms 33:7

    The water of the earth used to be under the crust. Psalms 136:6 To him that stretched out the earth above the waters. When YAHUWAH first made the world the crust of the earth was stretched over, most of the water now on top was underneath the earth. There were mass subterranean water chambers below. There are still huge amounts of water chambers today. Some think there is more below than on top, still. The bible says the fountains of the deep broke open.

    Bible says, (scriptures are a real historic record)

    In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights

    The earth has cracks all over it, like seems on a baseball. The Atlantic ridge, the San Andres fault, the Hayward fault, the golden fault, the ring of fire....for example. There is no question the earth has busted up in places. And the earth has gone through really hard times, busted up like an egg shell. This all happened at the time of the flood, not millions of years ago.

    Oh who shut up the sea with doors, when it broke forth, as if it had issued out of the womb ? When I made the cloud the garment thereof, and think darkness a swaddlingband for it, And brake up for it my decreed place, and set bars and doors. And said, Hitherto shalt thou come , but not further: and here shall thy proud waves be stayed ? Job 38:8-11

    The Bible is telling us the water gushed up out of the earth ,like water coming out of a womb. The plates of the earth broke apart, and the fault lines are still here today (none of it's my fault thoughl). The earth is broken up in plates and they are still moving a little bit: Earth quakes, volcanos....

    People say well is this not proof of Pangaea ? Nope. the text books say all the continents fit together. This is not true at all. They say South America and Africa seem to be a perfect fit. That is pure coincidence, biased on the current water level of the oceans.

    Here is the evidence they use to support Continental Drift:

    1. shapes of the continents seem to fit
    2. similar fossils found on opposite sides of oceans.

    The fossils are actually found all over the world, on all land. This just as much proof as a world wide flood. How far could a dead animal float in a year ? lol They point out the two fossils found on opposite sides of the oceans, but they don't point out the same ones that are found EVERY WHERE. Because they are trying to push off a theory on the kids, to advance the agenda.

    They don't tell the kids they shrink Africa nearly 40% to make it fit with South America. All of Mexico and central America are gone from there maps of Pangaea too.

    where is:

    1. Mexico ?
    2. Panama ?
    3. Costa Rica ?
    4. Guatemala ?
    5. Honduras ?
    6. Belize ?
    7 Nicaragua ?

    They don't tell the kids that Europe and South Africa have been rotated counter clock wise and Africa clock wise to make the map look legit for impressionable kids. If you took the water from the earth and just removed it all from the oceans, you will notice there is dirt underneath. The oceans have a bottom. The continents are not Lilly pads floating around is some bath tub. The continents are still connected, and people think they used to be ? They still are.

    The text books say there are magnetic reversals.


    How about Magnetic Reversals in the ocean floor ? Nope. There are no such thing as a magnetic reversals. Period. They teach that these reversals in the magnetic field show the earth is millions of years old, that they indicated millions of years of spreading of the earths floor. Yes the oceans floor is spreading, and the continents are moving, but it has not been for millions of years.

    There are no magnetic reversals. There are only stronger areas of magnetism and some areas of weaker magnetism. They measured the magnetic intensity in the layers of earth rock, in the mid Atlantic ridge and they found in some places where stronger magnetically and some places weaker. Stronger field and weaker fields here. So they drew a sign (~) wave, then somebody drew a line through the middle and called everything below average a reversal.

    Below average is not a reversal. Less magnetic intensity does not mean reversed magnetic intensity either. There is no place on the ocean floor where a North seeking compass will point south in relation to the rock. When we drill down into the floor it gets even more jumbled up.

    Actually the magnetic field is getting weaker, which indicates then that the earth is less than 25,000 years old. A 6% decline in the last 130 years in the earth's magnetic field. Of course the evolutionist can't have that. Thus they purposefully interpret and false state reversals, to take care of this problems. Kids will believe anything.
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  2. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    1. flood/hydro plates
    2. overview...ask questions. They have answers.
    3 the catalyst of the flood is not discussed here. just ask about it.

    We can see features on earth that can be systematically explained as from a flood, and with more science than the priest of evolution dream up. The flood was a powerful event, an energy release exceeding the explosion of then billion hydrogen bombs. This flood shows us just how quick the mountains formed.

    It explains the coal and the oil deposits, the quick Continental Drift. On the ocean floor there are huge canyons and hundreds of deep trenches and volcanoes. It explains the layered formation of the rock strata and the fossils found in them. It explains the so called "Ice Age" and all major land canyons, especially the Grand Canyon.

    The pre flood earth had probably one super Continent, covered with lush vegetation. There were seas and major rivers, the mountains where smaller than today, perhaps 9,000 ft high. The pre flood earth had a lot of water under the crust in chambers, about half of what is now in our oceans, 10 miles below earth's surface.

    Increasing pressure in the subterranean waters stretched the crust, just as a balloon stretches as pressure inside it increases. Failure in the crust began with a microscopic crack, which went in both directions about 3 miles per second. The crack following the path of least resistance encircled the globe in about two hours.

    As it raced around the earth the over lying rocky crust opened up like a rip in a tightly stretched cloth. The subterranean water was under extreme pressure because of the weight of 10 miles of crust on top of it, pressing down. The water exploded violently out of this rapture. All along this globe encircling rapture, fountains of water jetted super sonically, almost 20 miles into the atmosphere.

    The spray from this enormous fountain produced torrential rains, such as the earth has ever seen or experienced, before or after. The bible states all the fountains of the great deep burst open on one day. And it describes these events about 5,000 years ago that we can now tie together scientifically.

    Some of the water jetting high about the cold atmosphere froze into super cold ice crystals and produced some massive ice dumps burying, suffocating, and instantly freezing many animals, including the frozen Mammoths of Siberia and Alaska (as well as camels and other animals found in the same locations).

    The high pressure fountains, eroded the rock on both sides of the crack, producing huge volumes of sediments, that settled out of this muddy waters all over the earth. The sediments tracked and buried plants and animals, forming the fossil record. This erosion widened the rupture and eventually the width was so great that the compressed rock below the subterranean chamber sprung up giving birth to the mid oceanic ridge that wraps around the earth like the seem of a base ball.

    With lubricating waters underneath them, the plates slid down hill away from the rising mid Atlantic ridge, after the massive, slowly accelerating Continental plates reached speed of about 45 miles per hour, they ran into resistance, and compress and buckled. The portions of the hydro plate that rolled down formed the ocean trenches, those that buckled up formed mountains.

    This is why the major mountain chains are parallel to the oceanic ridges from which they slide. The hydro plates sliding away from the oceanic ridges opened up very deep ocean basins into which the flood waters retreated on. And the continents of each basin or bowl shaped depression were left full of water, producing many post flood lakes.

    The cracks in the ocean trench is what they are finding in magnetic strong or magnetic weak. Hoy basalt stores strong magnetic fields and cold basalt stores less. They cooled from this flood catastrophe at varying speeds, thus varying feild strenghts. That is all what scientist are finding.

    It is true that there is a little bit of subduction today, plates of the earth are being drawn under. Sections have slid down under. Hawaii is over a hot spot and it appears to be moving, there is plate subduction there, but it has n ot been going on for millions of years.

    There are a lot of things confusing to evolutionists:

    When you look at the bottom of the ocean, there is not much sediment down there, all the dirt washing into the oceans you would think the oceans would fill up with dirt, but when they check it out there is only a few thousands years worth of dirt down there.

    So why don't the oceans have huge layers of sediment ? Because they are not millions of years old. Their theory is that the dirt is all being recycled or being pulled under. This is why the plate movement theory is so important to the evolutionist. They have several serious problems in trying to over come reality.

    The plates moving today does not prove they have been moving at this rate for millions of years. The plates don not prove the earth is million of years at all actually. It supports a young earth. If you see someone headed east on a highway at 70 MPH,...does this prove they started in L.A. four days ago ?

    The fact that why we see the pates moving does not prove anything as far as time. Here is the flow in the evolutionist logic: The look at the ocean. The Atlantic oceans is spreading about 3 cm a year, a little over an inch a year. They say look at the distance from "here" to over "there" , and that proves a million years. That only proves your making assumptions and calculated assumptions. Plus, they are forgetting the Continental shelf and the shapes of the continents is just a pure coincidence.



    If you raised the water 6 hundred feel then Chicago would be under water. The oceans average 12,000 feet deep, just a 600 ft. change would put it under water completely. Continental drift theory in the texts books are trying to avoid two serous problems

    1. Magnetic field is getting weaker
    2. and there is not much dirt in the bottom of the ocean, saying the earth is young rather.

    Dr. Robert Gentry has done lots of study on the Granite rock around the world. He found they all contain Radio Plutonium Halo's with an extremely short half life. He proved they were never a hot molten mass. If you melt Granite rock and let it cool down again it does not turn back into granite again. We still have Granite all over the world. This tell us positively that the earth was never had a hot molten, bubbling lava pool.
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  3. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

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    When people think of the bible they automaticly think
    that some miraculous thing is involved when generally
    there are very good, logical, simple answers

    but its not like gaytia really wanted to know, she was just trying
    to be a smartass like usual.
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  4. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    This is why it's impossible to discuss things. Because no matter how logical or scientific one might be, someone can always come along and say, "It's magic!"

    Which is what you're doing here. You don't understand complex things, so you pull out the "It's magic!" card.

    That is the worst sort of logic ever at all. The non sequitor. It's like saying since you can't make a free throw basket, dolphins can't swim.

    Did I say babies are impossible, no. What you're doing is demonstrating a severe ignorance of reality. Human procreation is an understood science, it doesn't involve any impossibilities.

    The flood is impossible because in order for it to happen as it is written, it would wrought an amazing amount of destruction. Now, I would say that it's like a great dane trying to impregnate a miniature toy poodle. That's not possible.

    It would also involve more kinetic energy than available. It would be like a woman giving birth to a full grown human being. That's not possible.

    There is x amount of land on the Earth. There is y amount of water. Because water is affected by gravity, it doesn't go up until evaporation occurs, so it always goes down. So long as the elevation of the land is greater than y, there will not be constant global flooding.

    Like if you filled a bowl with two cups of oatmeal and one cup water... the water is going to magicallly come alive and swamp all the oatmeal, is it?

    Because MAGIC and IGNORANCE is so superior, isn't it?
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    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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  6. TheBigPayback

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    Ignore alias. address the posts from me and coup
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  7. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    What point? Your inability to grasp reality and your gross misinterpretation of the sciences only prove you're too much of a coward to accept the world as it is and that you want to hide in your little land of make believe.

    Seriously. You either say things that are simply untrue, or you draw terrible illogical conclusions.
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  8. Esoteriq

    Esoteriq Worst Behavior

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    Payback is a bigger tool than he ever was lol.

    Also the real problem is the water itself. How did millions of animals get the water that they needed every day? There COULDN'T have been enough for all of them, and nevermind the rain probably *had to* have contained salt water, so don't say from the fucking rain.

    Also...salt water and fresh water mixed...wouldn't many many fish that are still alive be dead under such conditions?

    TLDR: believing in the story of Noah's Ark is dumb.
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  9. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    Cat I studied evolution at Michigan State university for years...I know the theory very well. There are thousands of scientists that do not believe evolution. It's a lie. A near fact is that if you don't support the theory publicly you will not remain a tenured professor at almost all western universities...Hmm, I wonder. There is much you need to learn.

    Time is the magic wand. Time. It's a crap theory that is not apart of science. It's not science. There is not one shred of evidence to support the theory.

    You might do well to understand a larger picture and glean understanding. I have posted above some threads that may be of interest to you. I have more if you want.


    The creation did not create it's self.

    Threads of interest:
    http://board.rapmusic.com/sanctuary/1314719-re-evolution.html
    http://board.rapmusic.com/sanctuary/1310242-time-smoke-screen.html
    http://board.rapmusic.com/sanctuary/1308551-evolution-debate-evolutionist-vs-ye-creationist.html
    http://board.rapmusic.com/sanctuary/1309914-150-years-evolution-mantra-part-one.html
    http://board.rapmusic.com/sanctuary/1309582-lesson-noah.html
    http://board.rapmusic.com/sanctuary/1310347-truth-carbon-dating-atheist-will-not-like.html
    http://board.rapmusic.com/sanctuary/1310751-dating-game.html
    http://board.rapmusic.com/sanctuary...ia-s-hybrid-shark-means-evolution-action.html
    http://board.rapmusic.com/sanctuary/1308214-miller-experiment.html

    I'm not interested in a debate. Please take the time to read what is provided. Get understanding then pose questions, because otherwise you sound foolish.

    Do not be so quick to put your trust in man kind. The theory of evolution not only has no evidence at all, but is part of a larger deception. Deception is believing what is false to be true and what is really true to be false.

    Ask yourself: Has Satan successfully deceived the whole world as the Messiah prophesied about in Revelation 12:9?
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  10. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    Obviously not very well.
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  11. reggie jax

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    @Coup d'état

    simple question: if the land masses of the continents were not all connected after the flood, then how did the americas and australia come to be repopulated with animals?
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  12. TheBigPayback

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    Maybe u an coup should debate this. Shall i make the thread.
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  13. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    What's to debate?

    We look at the evidence, we draw conclusions. That's how the world works.

    But you, him, others, you already have the conclusion in mind. So you gather the evidence to support it, even when that evidence boldy flies in the face of reality.
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  14. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    @reggie jax

    Many ways.

    1. Human involvement
    2. Population shifts
    3. Migration
    4. Don't assume the current position of the continents today were the same then.

    You are forgetting the continents are still connected, even today. Lower the water tables a bit and you would have substantial "land bridges" and new ground. The continents are not Lilly pads floating in the ocean they all have a bottom and are connected.

    You had mentioned Kangaroos before, assuming they were only isolated in Australia. Truth is we find Kangaroo bones all over the world. They may only be in Australia today, but not always.
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  15. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    What's the BEST evidence for evolution ?

    @AliceHouse, read the threads provided. This will make better conversations going forward. otherwise you sound like a newb...I hear this same basic stuff all the time from you guys. Get up to speed and let's make this talk profitable.

    Again, what's the best indicator of evolution ? Pick one or two and we may proceed.
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  16. reggie jax

    reggie jax Well-Known Member

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    so are you saying there was less water at some point, and they all walked over before the tides rose?
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  17. Coup d'état

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    I cannot be sure how the population spread out...but there are ways it could have been done. Obviously we have animals throughout the world. They got there somehow.
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    a couple survived a flood once by building a boat. quite likely.

    oh, did I forget to mention he brought every kind of the planets animals on there gathered from all over the earth, which survived without eating eachother? oh, and that this was the only people who saved themselves from a flood which covered the earth, because we know what happened all over this planet at that time because a book said that God said that? Oh, and the water disappeared again after that.
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    it just seems crazy to think they could've done so if the continents weren't connected (yes, i know the sea floors are still connected, i'm talking about the parts above water).

    i mean you can speculate lower water tables leading to a land bridge, but you would have to account for why that was so. was more of the water frozen in the ice caps like the proposed ice age that allowed the indians to cross over? if that's the case, you can't account for how all the other tropical animals and plant life would have made it across. even human intervention can't rescue the idea without some sort of naval campaign that seems beyond the natives that inhabited the americas prior to the invasion of the europeans.

    if not an ice age, then what? what would cause the water tables to be low enough to connect the continents for a long enough period of time so that not only could animals and humans walk over, but plants could slowly spread their way over as well?
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  20. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    i didnt read the thread beyond the first couple posts, and im not siding with anyone, but payback is suggesting that you have the story wrong. And if you had the story right, you may either answer your own question or would have a different question.
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