I have a question for those amongst you who believe that the Noah's Ark story real..

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  1. Twamp

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    i still find it hilarious religious Nazi's believe in Noah's ark.
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    @TheBigPayback, I'm not sure you understand the implications of what you're saying.

    The amount necessary to produce a flood of global proportions far exceeds the current amount available on, in, and above the earth. While this doesn’t prove the water wasn’t present, the burden of proof is on those who defend the story to provide it with a plausible explanation. As the “fountains of the deep” (Genesis 7:11) contain only 1% of the necessary water, 99% would have to fall from the supposed sky ocean. Thus, the goal of covering every mountain with only forty days’ worth of precipitation would require a rainfall of six inches per minute, which is far too tremendous for the primitive ark to remain intact. In great contrast, we would typically expect a rainfall of only six inches per hour from a category five hurricane. One can only decide that this requirement is hardly feasible to carry out, especially when the heat generated by the impact of the raindrops on the flood surface would have been more than sufficient to boil the water and prevent it from rising.

    The water originating from underneath the earth’s surface would erupt with noxious gases, such as sulfuric acid, that would make their way into the atmosphere and cause the earth to become uninhabitable. The lava expected to accompany the subterranean water would also bring the already scalding liquid to its boiling point. Furthermore, if the oceans somehow miraculously avoided vaporization, nothing would have prevented the water from receding beneath the earth once the outpour ceased unless the pressure exerted by the water above collapsed the previous passageways. Such a scenario would then force the water to remain or evaporate. Since the water is no longer present and the clouds in the supposed sky ocean don’t have the capacity to hold this amount of liquid, we can only assume that it mysteriously vanished. However, the problems of the water’s source and destination are moot points since the entire ocean should have almost instantaneously been converted to steam. In fact, the steam rising from the ocean beds would have been concentrated enough to boil off the planet’s atmosphere.

    Keep in mind that this tale would make sense to the early Hebrew who apparently believed there was an oceanic reservoir in the sky (Genesis 1:6-7). If a mysterious canopy of water existed above the earth at one time, as some Christians have offered as an explanation for the origin of the water, the mass of liquid would raise the atmospheric pressure enough to cause a dramatic increase of oxygen and nitrogen to toxic levels. Such a canopy would also extend beyond the ozone layer, a problem concluding with the denaturation of water molecules by high levels of ultraviolet light. If you subtract the requisite of covering the world’s highest mountains, of which we have no reason to believe the story’s inventors were aware, most of these problems would conveniently disappear. As it stands, however, the necessary water requirement is too extraordinary for covering the earth’s surface by fifteen cubits.
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    Noah's Ark is hidden under the snowcapped Mountains of Mount Ararat in Turkey. the Turkish government has made the area a killzone, NO TRESSPASSING. if you try to go up there, they will gun you down. FACT.

    Do your research, the Most High is not a joke and his Historical Timeline aka The Bible is realer than any book you ever read. Because it's a LIVING BOOK!
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  4. AliceHouse

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    Please address the points made above. The story of a global flood is literally impossible.
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    wow - so what you do is copy/paste and act like its your own intellectual thoughts?
    do you have any actual thoughts of your own?

    source of your copy/paste
    An Introduction to Biblical Nonsense
    (water fiasco)
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  7. Ass Napkin Ed

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    so your stealing aka copy/pasting like its your own thoughts?
    why not post the source from where you stole from?
    stop being like the whiteman
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  8. AliceHouse

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    You're just being antagonizing. For someone who is so successful in life, you sure do spend a lot of time being an e-dick to strangers who don't care about you and otherwise proving yourself to be a dimwit.

    Was anything written any less valid for not being written in my own words? Sure, that's plagerism. But we're not writing college essays here. We're discussing reality. Reality has been discussed.
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    By all means check any ancient writings on the subject of a global flood.
    i assure u its not coincidence
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  10. Ass Napkin Ed

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    yep, i may be an e-dick and dimwit
    atleast i have my own thoughts/ideas and dont have to steal from others and try to pass it off as my own to 'look intelligent'

    your mad that you got busted for stealing and so your hating
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  11. AliceHouse

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    Except you don't have your own thoughts, silly.
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    you copy and paste and got busted
    tried to trick us into thinking its your own
    why you mad?

    how many other people you steal from?
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    holy fuck if this is true. fuckin' sad. thankful i got her on ignore.
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    yeah she tried to look super smart and intellectually superior


    @TheBigPayback, I'm not sure you understand the implications of what you're saying.

    The amount necessary to produce a flood of global proportions far exceeds the current amount available on, in, and above the earth. While this doesn’t prove the water wasn’t present, the burden of proof is on those who defend the story to provide it with a plausible explanation. As the “fountains of the deep” (Genesis 7:11) contain only 1% of the necessary water, 99% would have to fall from the supposed sky ocean. Thus, the goal of covering every mountain with only forty days’ worth of precipitation would require a rainfall of six inches per minute, which is far too tremendous for the primitive ark to remain intact. In great contrast, we would typically expect a rainfall of only six inches per hour from a category five hurricane. One can only decide that this requirement is hardly feasible to carry out, especially when the heat generated by the impact of the raindrops on the flood surface would have been more than sufficient to boil the water and prevent it from rising.

    The water originating from underneath the earth’s surface would erupt with noxious gases, such as sulfuric acid, that would make their way into the atmosphere and cause the earth to become uninhabitable. The lava expected to accompany the subterranean water would also bring the already scalding liquid to its boiling point. Furthermore, if the oceans somehow miraculously avoided vaporization, nothing would have prevented the water from receding beneath the earth once the outpour ceased unless the pressure exerted by the water above collapsed the previous passageways. Such a scenario would then force the water to remain or evaporate. Since the water is no longer present and the clouds in the supposed sky ocean don’t have the capacity to hold this amount of liquid, we can only assume that it mysteriously vanished. However, the problems of the water’s source and destination are moot points since the entire ocean should have almost instantaneously been converted to steam. In fact, the steam rising from the ocean beds would have been concentrated enough to boil off the planet’s atmosphere.

    Keep in mind that this tale would make sense to the early Hebrew who apparently believed there was an oceanic reservoir in the sky (Genesis 1:6-7). If a mysterious canopy of water existed above the earth at one time, as some Christians have offered as an explanation for the origin of the water, the mass of liquid would raise the atmospheric pressure enough to cause a dramatic increase of oxygen and nitrogen to toxic levels. Such a canopy would also extend beyond the ozone layer, a problem concluding with the denaturation of water molecules by high levels of ultraviolet light. If you subtract the requisite of covering the world’s highest mountains, of which we have no reason to believe the story’s inventors were aware, most of these problems would conveniently disappear. As it stands, however, the necessary water requirement is too extraordinary for covering the earth’s surface by fifteen cubits.


    source of AliceHouse's plagiarizing word for word found here
    An Introduction to Biblical Nonsense
    (see: water fiasco)
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  16. Twamp

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    smh that stupid bitch quacked out.
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  17. AliceHouse

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    The point is still valid. I win, as I always do.
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  18. Twamp

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    stupid and delirious, what a combo.
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    In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. And the rain was on the earth forty days and forty nights (Genesis7:11–12).

    The Bible tellsusthatwater came from two sources: below the earth and above the earth. Evidently, the source for water below the ground was in great subterranean pools, or “fountains” of fresh water, which

    were broken open by volcanic and seismic (earthquake) activity. 10

    Where Did All the Water Go?

    And the waters receded continually from the earth. At the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters decreased (Genesis 8:3).

    Simply put, the water from the Flood is in the oceans and seas we see today. Three-quarters of the earth’s surface is covered with water.

    As even secular geologistsobserve,itdoesappear that the continents were at one time “together” and not separated by the vast oceans of today. The forces involved in the Flood were certainly sufficient to change all of this.

    Scripture indicates that God formed the ocean basins, raising the land out of the water, so that the floodwaters returned to a safe place. (Some theologians believe Psalm 104 may refer to this event.) Some creation scientists believe this breakup of the continent was part of the mechanism that ultimately caused

    the Flood. 11

    Some have speculated, because of Genesis 10:25, that the continental break occurred during the time of Peleg. However, this division is mentioned in the context of the Tower of Babel’s language division of the whole earth (Genesis 10–11). So the context points to a dividing of the languages and people groups, not the land breaking apart.

    If there were a massive movement of continents during the time of Peleg, there would have been another worldwide flood. The Bible indicates that the mountains of Ararat existed for the Ark to land in them (Genesis 8:4); so the Indian-Australian Plate and Eurasian Plate had to have already collided, indicating that the continents had already shifted prior to Peleg.

    Was Noah’s Flood Global?

    And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. The waters prevailed fifteencubitsupward, and the mountains were covered (Genesis7:19–20).

    Many Christianstodayclaim thattheFlood of Noah’stime was only a local flood. These people generally believe in a local flood because they have accepted the widely believed evolutionary history of the earth,

    which interprets fossil layers as the history of the sequential appearance of life over millions of years. 12

    Scientists once understood the fossils, which are buried in water-carried sediments of mud and sand, to be mostly the result of the great Flood. Those who now accept millions of years of gradual accumulation of fossils have, in their way of thinking, explained away the evidence for the global Flood.Hence,many compromising Christiansinsist on a local flood.

    Secularistsdeny thepossibility of a worldwideFlood atall. Ifthey would think from a biblicalperspective, however, they would see the abundant evidence for the global Flood. As someone once quipped, “I wouldn’t have seen it if I hadn’t believed it.”

    Those who accept the evolutionary timeframe, with its fossil accumulation, also rob the Fall of Adam of its serious consequences. They put the fossils, which testify of disease, suffering, and death, before Adam and Eve sinned and brought death and suffering into the world. In doing this, they also undermine the meaning of the death and resurrection of Christ. Such a scenario also robs all meaning from God’s description of His finished creation as“very good.”

    If the Flood only affected the area of Mesopotamia, as some claim, why did Noah have to build an Ark? He could have walked to the other side of the mountains and escaped. Most importantly, if the Flood were local, people not living in the vicinity of the Flood would not have been affected by it. They would have escaped God’s judgment on sin.

    A local Flood?

    In addition, Jesus believed that the Flood killed every person not on the Ark. What else could Christ mean when He likened the coming world judgment to the judgment of “all” men in the days of Noah (Matthew 24:37–39)?

    In 2 Peter 3, the coming judgment by fire is likened to the former judgment by water in Noah’s Flood. A partial judgment in Noah’s day, therefore, would mean a partial judgment to come.

    If the Flood were only local, how could the waters rise to 20 feet (6 m) above the mountains (Genesis7:20)? Water seeks its own level; itcouldnot riseto coverthelocal mountains while leaving the rest of the world untouched.

    Even what is now Mt. Everest was once covered with water and uplifted afterward. 13 If we even out the ocean basins and flattenout themountains, there is enough water to cover the entire earth by about 1.7

    miles (2.7 km). 14 Also important to note is that, with the leveling out of the oceans and mountains, the Ark would not have been riding at the height of the current Mt. Everest, thus no need for such things as oxygen masks either.

    There’s more. If the Flood were a local flood, God would have repeatedly broken His promise never to send such a flood again. God put a rainbow in the sky as a covenant between God and man and the animals that He would never repeat such an event. There have been huge local floods in recent times (e.g., in Bangladesh); but never has there been another global Flood that killed all life on the land.

    Where Is the Evidence in the Earth for Noah’s Flood?

    For this they willingly forget: that by the word of God the heavenswereof old, and theearth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water (2 Peter 3:5–6).

    Evidence of Noah’s Flood can be seen all over the earth, from seabeds to mountaintops. Whether you travel by car, train, or plane, the physical features of the earth’s terrain clearly indicate a catastrophic past, from canyons and craters to coal beds and caverns. Some layers of strata extend across continents, revealing the effects of a huge catastrophe.

    The earth’s crust has massive amounts of layered sedimentary rock, sometimes miles (kilometers) deep! These layers of sand, soil,and material—mostly laid down by water—were once soft like mud, but they are now hard stone. Encased in these sedimentary layers are billions of dead things (fossils of plants and animals) buried very quickly. The evidence all over the earth is staring everyone in the face.
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  20. Alias3000

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    Nothing is impossible for the Most High.

    If the flood was impossible then so is the life cycle of humans. How do babies come to be? that's impossible. are you serious? pregnant women actually have babies? wow..that's impossible.

    What about the ocean? why does it stay in it's place not flood the earth daily? that's impossible.

    see how many holes your logic has in it?
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