"I couldn’t imagine letting something take over my body and then my whole life.”

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  1. Dex Lewis

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    informationliberation - Magazine Promotes Sterilization For Women In Their 20’s

    A popular women’s magazine in the UK recently featured an article entitled, Young, Single and Sterilized, in which women in their 20’s discussed why they had undergone an operation to prevent them from ever having children. The article is little more than PR for a “women’s charity” called Marie Stopes International, an organization that carries out abortions and sterilizations and was founded by a Nazi eugenicist who advocated compulsory sterilization of non-whites and “those of bad character”.

    The story appears in a weekly magazine called Love It (click for PDF enlargement). One of the women featured in the article, Chloe, explains why she decided to have herself sterilized at the age of just 20.

    “By the time I was 18, I knew I was never going to change. I couldn’t imagine letting something take over my body and then my whole life.”

    “I couldn’t even look at a baby without feeling uncomfortable.”

    Following the sterilization procedure, Chloe celebrates the fact that “I’ve got a lifetime of going out ahead of me now,” presumably meaning going out, getting mindlessly drunk and having sex with random strangers, as is British culture, while not having to worry about the risk of pregnancy or the responsibility of looking after a child.

    Despite admitting that she has not told any of her family and not even her own mother about the sterilization, the article ends with Chloe boldly stating that it was, “the most sensible adult decision I’ll ever make.”

    Another ’success story’ as the article skews it is Charlie McCann, who was sterilized on her 30th birthday and, we read, “is happy with her choice, insisting the men in her life have to adjust.” Her then boyfriend decided to adjust by ending the relationship because he couldn’t bear never having children.

    Ironically, another woman speaks about how she first became interested in the idea of being sterilized after reading about the subject in a women’s magazine.

    Jacquelyn Arnold tells of how she felt “irritation” at the sight of children playing in a garden and decided to go ahead with the operation, which is described in routine and straightforward terms. Arnold says she has no regrets and has ‘taken control of her life’.

    Sterilization is lauded as an “excellent method of birth control” by Dr. Patricia Lohr of the British Pregnancy Advisory Service.

    The article includes an advertisement that encourages women to seek “more information about sterilization” by contacting Marie Stopes International. We read that, “Over the past year, a quarter of the women who booked a sterilisation consultation with women’s charity Marie Stopes were aged 30 or under.”

    Marie Stopes was a feminist who opened the first birth control clinic in Britain in 1921 as well as being Nazi sympathizer and a eugenicist who advocated that non-whites and the poor be sterilized.

    Stopes, a racist and an anti-Semite, campaigned for selective breeding to achieve racial purity, a passion she shared with Adolf Hitler in adoring letters and poems that she sent the leader of the Third Reich.

    Stopes also attended the Nazi congress on population science in Berlin in 1935, while calling for the “compulsory sterilization of the diseased, drunkards, or simply those of bad character.†Stopes acted on her appalling theories by concentrating her abortion clinics in poor areas so as to reduce the birth rate of the lower classes.
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    Stopes left most of her estate to the Eugenics Society, an organization that shared her passion for racial purity and still exists today under the new name The Galton Institute. The society has included members such as Charles Galton Darwin (grandson of the evolutionist), Julian Huxley and Margaret Sanger.

    Ominously, The Galton Institute website promotes its support and funding initiative for “the practical delivery of family planning facilities, especially in developing countries.†In other words, the same organization that once advocated sterilizing black people to achieve racial purity in the same vein as the Nazis is now bankrolling abortions of black babies in the third world.

    While the issue of abortion is an entirely different argument, most would agree that no matter how extreme it sounds, a woman has the right to sterilize herself if she so chooses, just as a man has the right to a vasectomy.

    But when a magazine aimed primarily at young women all but encourages girls as young as 20 to have their fallopian tubes tied in order to prevent the “irritation” of children entering their lives and then advertises an organization founded by a Nazi eugenicist that can perform the operation, something has to be amiss.

    Even more shocking than this is the fact that the majority of people in the UK routinely express their support for society’s “undesirables” to be forcibly sterilized by the state, harking back to a time when such a thing was commonplace right up to the 1970’s in some areas of America and Europe.

    As we highlighted earlier this month, respondents to a Daily Mail article about Royal Mail honoring Marie Stopes by using her image on a commemorative stamp were not disgusted at Royal Mail for paying homage to a racist Nazi eugenicist, but were merely keen to express their full agreement that those deemed not to be of pure genetic stock or of the approved character should be forcibly sterilized and prevented from having children.

    "A lot of people should be sterilized, IMO. It's still true today," wrote one.

    "Just imagine what a stable, well-ordered society we'd have if compulsory sterilisation had been adopted years ago for the socially undesirable," states another respondent, calling for a "satellite-carried sterilisation ray" to be installed in space to zap the undesirables.

    Shockingly, another compares sterilization and genocide of those deemed inferior to the breeding and culling of farmyard animals, and says that such a move is necessary to fight overpopulation and global warming. Here is the comment in full from "Karen" in Wales;
    We breed farm animals to produce the best possible stock and kill them when they have fulfilled their purpose. We inter-breed pedigree animals to produce extremes that leave them open to ill-health and early death. It is only religion that says humans are not animals. The reality is that we are simply intelligent, mammalian primates.

    The world population of humans has increased from 2 billion to 6.5 billion in the last 50 years. This planet can support 2 billion humans comfortably. 6.5 billion humans use too many resources and leads to global warming, climate change and a very uncertain future for all of us - humans and all other life sharing this planet with us.

    Marie Stopes believed in population control and in breeding the best possible humans. So did Hitler. Neither of the aims are bad in themselves. It is how they are achieved that is the problem. The fact that we still remember Marie Stopes is an achievement in itself.
    The nature of these comments is so fundamentally sick and twisted that one is tempted to dismiss them as a joke - but these people are deadly serious. Presumably they would also agree with China’s one child policy, which is routinely enforced by intimidation as young pregnant women are grabbed off the streets by state goons and taken to hospitals where forced abortions are carried out.

    Now with popular women’s magazines advising women in their 20’s where they can go to be sterilized and ensure a lifetime of partying and carefree sex, it’s no surprise that experts predict that by 2010 one in four western women will be child free for life.

    The yearning to have children is the most beautiful, natural and innate emotion either a man or a woman can possibly experience. That is not to say that it’s always wrong for some people not to have children - extreme circumstances can justify such a decision. But to have yourself sterilized because you find children to be an “irritant” and want to live a life free of responsibility or consequences is an awful message to send to young women, especially in the sex-saturated entertainment culture that we are now forced to endure.

    Furthermore, the outright promotion of Marie Stopes International as ‘the place to go’ to get sterilized if you’re under 30 is stomach-churning considering the fact that the origins of this organization can be found in Nazi ideology, racist and backward early 20th century eugenics and a long-standing agenda to cull the population of undesirables, an abhorrent belief still held by elites across the planet today.
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  3. Dex Lewis

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    Is this really the level of selfishness western women are succumbing to?
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  4. Anonmuz

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    I feel these cases are lies, I mean I know these women did what they did and feel how they feel but they try to make like all young, single or dating women feel this way when it's a lie and it's not a trend like they try to make seem.

    But it's no new news, thats what organizations like Planned Parenthood were created to do, sterilize women. Birth control when taken over years and years sterilizes women.

    Look at the movies you watch and you can see what direction society is leaning to... especially movies like Children Of Men and all others like it that has something to do with women not being able to bare children, it's what they want.

    I feel like a giant ethnic cleansing is going to take place... well I feel an attempt at it will happen soon.
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  5. LiL' Lucy

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    Thanks for the info Dex I always thought the Marie Stopes clinics were a good thing, I am Pro choice, but yr post reveals a far more sinister underbelly to the organisation.
    Scary stuff..........
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  6. ~S*T*A*R*M~

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    What exactly do you consider selfish?
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  7. samii so sexii

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    Wow.

    As the article pointed out, vasectomies and sterilizations alike are free for you to choose.

    The main problem I see is that people are deciding to do it so young. I'm 22 years old, and I'm just barely getting a handle on what I want to do with my life.

    now there may be 22 year olds that are well adjusted and have a clear idea of what they want out of life. I just think that taking such an extreme and PERMANENT step is...well, extreme.

    As far as the "people of bad character": I understand the article's point, but I'm not sure if I'm fit to object. I for one don't think people that are of low financial stature are fit to have children. By that I mean, if you can't fully financially support the kid, then you shouldn't have the kid.

    BUT at the same time, you can have all the money in the world like the Hilton family and still pop out a degenerate like Paris.

    overall great read.
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  8. LiL' Lucy

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    Hmmmm so you'd "means test" prospective parents then? I'm younger than you and from a real poor (financially) family did that mean I had bad parents? No.
    I do kinda understand where you are coming from, but as your Hilton example pointed out being rich is no guarantee of being a good parent.
    lol at yr extreme being extreme ;-)
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    no comment...
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  10. Dex Lewis

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    Abandoning your reproductive duties as a woman for a career or degenerate party girl lifestyle.
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  11. liquid`acid

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    ^but at this day in age having your own child is selfish

    there are too many kids out there that do not have homes and need one.

    imo if you cant tell a poor starving child in the street with no home or parents or even one living in a foster home that they will continue living without a home because you would rather have your own child instead then you do not deserve one. if you have the gall to look such a destitute child in the eye and tell them they get to continue living their tortured existence then by all means go have your own baby.

    im in full agreement with everything the magazine that published this advocates, any of these women who change their mind can do the right thing and adopt.

    anyone having their own kids should reassess their moral guidelines
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  12. samii so sexii

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    What I mean is because you're younger than me and don't have money, then you probably shouldn't be poppin out babies. But I mean that's from a logical standpoint.

    You just may be the most loving and caring woman in the world...And as you stated, just because you're poor doesn't mean you equate to "bad"...

    idk, i just think that is a parent's responsibility to give their kids all the basic necessities in our society. Health coverage/insurance is really important to me. I think parents should have money in the bank. God forbid an emergency comes about, you have some sort of cushion so your child doesn't suffer. Decent food to eat. Y'know there were kids on my block that used to eat bowls of butter and sugar just because there was nothing else in the house. Shit like that isn't cool. You know you were broke before you got knocked up. Why would you subject your kids to that?

    idk, i want my kids to have everything I did and more.
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  13. LiL' Lucy

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    Dont worry Samii I have no plan on popping one out lol & as I'm in the UK the health thing doesn't apply. You sound like you gonna be a sweet moms one day, & I feel the same, no way my kids (if I have them), are going through the stuff I did. Its just I'm pretty sure poor doesn't always mean bad in the case of parents .
    I reckon we've gone off topic slightly, but it is the "Ladies" section so its allowed right?
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  14. ~S*T*A*R*M~

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    Abandoning our reproductive duties........ wow...
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  15. samii so sexii

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    Thank you Lucy. We agree. I'm sure I would be a lovely mother, even tho according to statistics Im BARELY above the poverty line. eh...

    And we're mos def allowed to go off topic. With that, how was your day?? LoL


    @Starm: I thought the same thing when I read his post, but I didn't feel it was worth eliciting a back and forth with him LoL. Glad you're doing it for me.
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