Discussion in 'Hip-Hop Central' started by ANDtheMC, Apr 14, 2006.
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Nah, I can pretty much say I agree with duke on this, Pap does come off sounding mad stiff. Yes, his concepts are straight, his lyrics are cool, but his flow/execution is ehhhh.
I never understood what got cats so hyped about him, it's like they're looking so hard for the next East Coast cat to blow that they take the first cat that spits a couple big words at em and jump for joy.
Dude is far from total package needed to blow.
The thing is though, he's signed to Busta Rhymes and Kay Slay's label, that's not really saying much for him in terms of skill because these two are FRIENDS of his. Had it been to a major label rather than subsidaries ran by his close friends, then we could say "hey, well, he's signed isn't he?"
Wow @ being offbeat being known as 'advanced' now.
Pap is the best. Your just so used to people going right, and people doing the same ol same ol more of the same, that when someone completely changes it up, its incomprehensible to you.
Papoose > Anyone in the industry right now.
First of all no.
He nagged and nagged KaySlay to listen to him, then when Slay finally did, he knew he was sitting on someone dope. So Slay signed him to his company then. Then they needed distribution. Same thing happens again, Pap redoes a Busta joint, then they work together a couple times, and then Busta signs him.
Pap made 9 mixtapes before he ever did a song with Busta, has nothing to do with signing with friends.
Fuck it, I aint reading this whole thread. But Mainstream America couldnt give a fuck less about delivery and flow. Only net heads like us sit online thinking about it. Granted, I like Paps flow and delivery and think people are just nitpicking him, the shit will not hinder his sales.
He is the most creative rapper in the game.
lol @ That long ass A& R post. Shit had nothing to do with it. Pap was getting deals from others, but waited for a multi million dollar deal, which he finally recieved from Busta. I guess he does all them mixtapes, because he can. He likes to keep his name in the streets, and seems like the type of guy who lives in the studio. While it dont take him years upon years to make enough songs for an album, he just releases his shit every month or 2.
he made alphabetical slaughter................yall need 2 respect him off just that but the shit he been puttin out lately is garbage.......like dat song wit swizz and busta..........he should jus stay underground an get rich dat way........the mainstream is jus gonna ruin him
This post right here said enough. You could have left it at that, because everything in it is true. I wanted for Pap to be a diamond in the rough, and for him to take NY by storm. Truth is, he just isn't that good. People who hopped on the wagon due to the hype will disagree with this because of their pride but you speak the truth about dude and there's no getting around it. The obvious will always prevail.
Big L was alot smoother than this guy, Pap has no charisma on the mic whatsoever
i think thats why i cant stand listenin to him.. all he does is yell and his lyrics are very average
*waits for Oz to come in*
tha only song i even real halfass liked wuz touch it remix....... heze got potential and decent lyricz but hiz delivery suckz cock.....he could elevate wit time but az of now he suckz
it took me a while to start to at least somewhat like this dude and even still im not totally convinced i am a fan of his music but i've heard a couple of his tracks that i do like they are on this mixtape i uploaded for anyone to check out
Papoose - Menace 2 Society pt 2
^ check out Menance 2 Society pt 2 ( dope ass concept, you can really appreciate this if ur a fan of the movie, i think he comes correct on this track all around)
You Made Your Choice
those are probably the best 3 on there, u can download track by track so u dont have to download a bunch of garbage
i dont give a fuck what anyone thinks of course, but just to let everybody know
me and my people fuck with papoose on the regular, me and ALL my niggas think he is the nicest or one of the nicest right now
so it leads me to think the internet isnt like real life, or some of yall from the middle of nowhere and dont know what real shit is....dont know dont care
papoose is sick
I know what real shit is... real shit is his delivery... it's REALLY REALLY REALLY SHIT
I REPEAT, one of the worst deliveries outta any rapper fuckin' with anything close to a major
Papoose is nice on some tracks & wack on others.. he got hella potential though so i'mma probably still cop his album when it drops.. but true on the delivery thing, he needs work on that
He is a mixtape rapper, of course he aint releasing 100 percent nice tracks. Name 1 mixtape rapper that ever has?
Next of all, to say he isnt even that good a lyricist is just plain stupidity. Hov is a good lyricist, and Pap is above and beyond his level, Jadakiss is a good lyricist and Pap makes him look fucking stupid. Pap is prolly the best lyricist in the game now, and maybe ever.
Next of all, I can completely understand why he may not be everyones cup of tea. For the same reason people from the south love lil jon, is the same reason us Nyers love papoose. He is honestly about to take the spot Hov has held for nearly a decade, as my favorite rapper ever.
As for the delivery, yall just are so used to rappers who spit the same exact way on every single track, yall cant handle nothing different. If its different, its not right? Who honestly sits there like ....lyrics, lyrics lyrics....OMGOD HE SLIPPED OFF BEAT ON A MIXTAPE TRACK, FUCKING THIS NIGGA, HE IS SO FUCKING WACK", obviously AndTheMc. Next of all, even if his delivery isnt top notch, and Ill admit, he lacks the charisma Big L had, he is his own man, and isnt expected to be like anyone else. Papoose is better than most in most categories.
No delivery? Maybe its because his shit aint 1 syllable simplified bullshit we've become accustomed to from everyone from Hov to 50 Cent and even Eminem.
Lets see ANYONE else in the rap game not only write, but be capable of spitting this to a beat. ANYONE.
(A) Alert assassins at large allegedly automatic artillery angrily aimed
Accurate AK's able doorways adversary afraid as active ammunition
And accumulated an alias after arrested
And accompanied armed accessories as an adolescent
(B) Bridge Benz brolic burners bringin' brothers betrayer's bodies
briefly be body banged bleedin' brothers
Blaze bats in brave bashin' BROOKLYN bullets busters big biscuits
barrels blazin' beheading bitch boasts and bluffers
Borough barricaders beat bringers brutally blast bringin' blood baths...
(C) Cover cowards corners collectin' cash
Confirmed convicts commitin' crimes clappin' cats
Creepin' cashiers causin' characters comas cappin' crabs
Clearly commiting CILO cocaine capsule caps colored capturing customer's
Confiscatin' combinatin' kids are countin' cream calculatin'
Cockin' calibur chromes creatin' casualties conversatin'
(D) Dominatin' devoted dealer devastatin' determination demonstratin'
Debatin' drug deals demandin' dough distributed
Definitely dividing double digit dollar dividends
Drama declarin' demolishin' domain dozer
Directing dumb-dumbs doin' dummies dirty disarmin' Dojos
(E) Estimatin' onions enlarged and economically
Equally educatin' each exercise in equality
Eliminatin' expirin' enemies eradicatin'
Erasin' evidence every element evacuatin'
(F) For four faggots frontin' for fame fleein' from flames
Firin' full-fledged four-fours forcin' flesh from frames
Fortune fanatic, follow formats for funds faithfully
Felonies, furiously fighting for freedom fatally
Frigidally, frantic fightin' FEDS feelin' fearful finacially fortunate,
flippin' figures for fifty-fifty...
(G) Gatherin' grants grabbin' gauges gangsta ganks g's gettin green
Guess garments gleamin'
Greatly gainin' g's
Genuine gestures gracefully guide
Government Generals gradually generate genocide
(H) Head hoodlum hittin' heads heavenly hypnotizin'
Hire hitmen harness be holdin' heaters hospitalizin'
High holdin' hammers hectically hittin' herbs homicidin'
Helicopter hijackin' holdin' hostages horrifyin'
(I) Intellectually infinite imperial idol infamous
Inhale the Izm injecting intelligence in ignorance
(J) Jumble jum juggler jaw jabbin' jeopardizin'
Jackin' jewelry jinglin' jackknife jiggin' jittery jivers
(K) Knievers, knowledge key, keep a king, keep a kingdom
K-K-K killin' keenly keepin' kosher livin'
(L) Legitimate legal license LEX lastin' longevity
Luxury life, language lacin' lyrical legacy
Lightin' L's loudly loungin' livin' large like Luthor
Loadin' long Lugers lethally lullabying losers
(M) Maneuvers made miraculously, microphone majesty
Music messiah mastered money makin' mathematically
(N) Naturally naked and notorious, naughty nature
Nasty New York nigga narcotic negotiator
(O) Observator, oppression obstructin' originator
Organized official officer oxen operator
(P) Plot participator
Plan powder pushin' premeditated
Po-Po partners patrolin' preventin' payment
Prosecutin' penny pinchers
Prison penalty permanent placement
Packin' powerful pistols punk plea and player's playin pavement
(Q) Queen's qualifyed quantity/quality
(R) Rulers rule righteously rightfully royal rapology
Real revolutionaries rather regulate rivalry
Rampantly raisin' raiders rampagin' relentless rivalry
(S) Sense up snub slugs snipin' sharp shooter
Smackin' soldiers silly severely shankin' stupid troopers
(T) Terrorizin' terrible thorough thug terrifyin' totin' two tecs takin'
territories thoroughly thrivin'
(U) Unifyin' ultimately upliftin' uncivilized
Unique understandin' universally utilized
(V) Visualize vocab victoriously vocalized
Versatile Vice-Versa verbals viciously victimize
Lots of added and missed words in there, and missing the backwards spitting, but still...
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