How do 'sleeping' not 'raised at death' believers rectify this one

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  1. TheBigPayback

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    And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints


    How if on his return would he be coming with saints if everyone raises from sleep at the same time.


    Duh.
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  2. snowy

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    Theres 380k people born every day so returning with 10k wouldnt be that hard. If the "Lord" has tens of thousands of saints in waiting which could bring peace and comfort to the families of the 100k people who die every day then why doesnt he. Well most likely cause his subscription levels arent high enough. It's all about the 1st commandment.

    The answer you are going to give is its all Gods plan (the assumption being there is one) or we're not ready to receive his blessing (as if we ever will be).

    My answer is the same as its always been. IF he does exist in any personal form which most monotheistic religions claim, he is a malevolent douchebag who just likes pulling his puppets strings and watching them fall.

    If WW2 wasnt enough of a clue that God doesnt exist or at the very least doesnt care about his creation or give cause for him to intervene then I highly doubt anything short of world wide annihilation of 99% of life on Earth will bring him out of hiding.
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  3. snowy

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    And using a Book to affirm the outcome told by the same Book is stupidity at its finest.
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  4. exodus 31315

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    couldn't everyone raise from sleep and within an instant he selects 10k of who he wants?
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  5. TheBigPayback

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    read the valley of dry bones prophecy.
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  6. TheBigPayback

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    They called out in a loud voice, "How long, Sovereign Lord, holy and true, until you judge the inhabitants of the earth and avenge our blood?"

    How are the calling for vengence of their deaths if they are simply 'sleeping' and aint there to ask
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    if they ask after they're awoken from sleep?

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  8. TheBigPayback

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    This is prior to jesus return thus prior to resurrection
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  9. exodus 31315

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    oh ok, i get you then
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  10. Coup d'état

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    Payback, despite your belief that people are in a heaven now, this is not true and is not what scriptures teach. Nor does that verse you posted, plucked out of context and given your personal interpretation, means that.

    Everyone who has died is in the ground as dust...awaiting, resting, for that fearful day to come. That does not mean you don't have soul or it is dead. Don't get me wrong, that is not want I'm saying either.
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  11. TheBigPayback

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    Ill prove it. Where did the rich man go at death, how bout the poor man. Ya thats what i thought. Smh.
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  12. Coup d'état

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    lol @"yeah that's what I thought"

    You can think anything you want to, but what do scriptures teach us ?
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  13. TheBigPayback

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    That to be absent from the body is to be present with the lord.
    That we are appointed once to die and then judgement.

    And u still didnt answer where the rich/poor man went.

    Ill make it easier for anyone that didnt know

    The rich man went to hades, the poor man went to abrahams boosom. Paradise.

    Just like when christ died, he told the man THIS DAY!
    YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE!

    /thread
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  14. TheBigPayback

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    And just to put the proverbial nail in the coffin. No pun intended.

    2837. koimao koy-mah'-o from 2749; to put to sleep, i.e. (passively or reflexively) to slumber; figuratively, to decease:--(be a-,fall a-,fall on) sleep, be dead.
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  15. Coup d'état

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    lol @ payback

    LMAO @ "thread/"

    you remind me of a child trying to play with a gun

    what book and vesrse is the poor/rich man ? I'll take a look at it.
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  16. TheBigPayback

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    *rolls eyes*
    luke 16
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  17. TheBigPayback

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    all I ask is afterwards, u admit u are wrong.
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  18. Coup d'état

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    K, ill break it down.

    Also, you know that the shroud of Turin is a fake right ? Why do you have it as an avatar ? LOL

    you big dummy
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  19. TheBigPayback

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    Who proved it was fake?

    Update your knowledge.
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  20. Coup d'état

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    illl prove it with scirptures alone...bet. I got the thread made already. I'll post it there.
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