Home Runs, Heroes and Hypocrisy: Performance Enhancement in Black and White

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  1. menaz

    menaz Avant Garde

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    Actually it is what he is implying.


    He claims if Joe DiMaggio faced Satchel Paige he wouldn't have his records. Therefore, good but not great. It's his theorical opinion. One I see as bias and near sided.

    You're not even a dude, I don't even take what you say as serious when it comes to base ball discussion.
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  2. Offbeat

    Offbeat New Member

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    NONE of you guys know baseball.
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  3. identity-X

    identity-X No Talent Assclown

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    menaz misses the point...









    ...again.
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  4. Offbeat

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    id-x, its you whos actually missing the point.

    pretty funny since u started the thread, lmao
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  5. identity-X

    identity-X No Talent Assclown

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    guess this answers the the "is our children learning?" question.

    seems like they're being "left behind" when it comes to reading and comprehension
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  6. identity-X

    identity-X No Talent Assclown

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    "For how can white Americans call for Bonds to have his records marred by an asterisk, while continuing to revere the records and performances of their white baseball heroes of eras past--folks with names like DiMaggio, Williams, Ruth and Cobb--who benefited from a much greater "performance enhancement" than that which steroids can provide: namely, the racist exclusion of black athletes from the major leagues?"

    clowns *shakes head*
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  7. Offbeat

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    ^ i disagree with that statement.
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  8. menaz

    menaz Avant Garde

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    Jesus H christ, so did I.

    I think I now know who got left behind, the fat kid.

    You not only are a women you argue like one as well.
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  9. identity-X

    identity-X No Talent Assclown

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    it's obvious you disagree and you're allowed to...that's not why I posted it.

    that paragraph sums up the POINT and the MAIN IDEA of the entire article.



    NOT menaz' previous comment stating that the author claims white athletes would have been less great
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  10. BeEgEe

    BeEgEe El Warm Shot

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    lol.


    shithead.

    there was less than 1% in the majors
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    RUTH is not mediocre, who he played against were.


    pithcers today blow the pitchers of the early years out of the water
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  11. Offbeat

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    ^ not according 2 the stats.
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  12. Offbeat

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    babe ruth played 2500 games, bonds is approaching 3000.

    dude had about 4 seasons worth of games more than babe and has hit 30 more home runs.
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  13. BlackSoultan Ad Infinitum

    BlackSoultan Ad Infinitum aka Billy Shoreview

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    the argument is simple: if the league allowed the players from the negro league to play, the stats would be very different. Excluding all the better players is a better performance enhancement than giving everyone access to steroids.
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  14. MyKe SeaN

    MyKe SeaN Paula Deen is my hero.

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    He didnt face the most athletic people in the world.
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  15. menaz

    menaz Avant Garde

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    Actually The author is impling exactly what I claimed.

    So the way I see it This would be the point in any real conversation I would laugh in your face shrug my shoulders and say YOU'RE RETARDED.

    *Walks off into the sunset*.

    WOW!
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  16. identity-X

    identity-X No Talent Assclown

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    i refrained, but Soultan spells it out in plain english a few posts above this one...

    step yo readin' comprehension game up, yo...
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  17. menaz

    menaz Avant Garde

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    You are simplely retarded. End of story!
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  18. Offbeat

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    we dont know that.

    for all we know babe woulda smacked MORE out the park.
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  19. BlackSoultan Ad Infinitum

    BlackSoultan Ad Infinitum aka Billy Shoreview

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    No, because for all that we know, considering all that we know, he wouldn't have hit as many off of black pitchers, and he wouldn't have hit as many relative to black hitters. We know this because of what the article notes: black teams as against national league teams in exhibition games split the wins about fifty fifty, even though they had a shorter bench and fewer resources than the National League provided. The former negro league players dominated when they DID go to the NL, some at such advanced ages that Bonds would look like a rookie.

    Also, think of it this way: switch 'em. Put the Babe now and Bonds then. You do that, he's going for his 1300th hom run, Ruth's going for 8 if he's lucky. You expect THAT guy to hit the ball 400 feet. [look]

    So THAT'S what we know, so for ALL that we know, how do you POSSIBLY justify the conclusion that he may have hit MORE than 714?
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  20. Offbeat

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    why wouldnt babe kill black pitches the same he did whites?
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