Hitlers mistake

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  1. x calibur

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    word. there were Russians willing to defect to the German side. However, Hitler wanted Lebensraum in the east from the beginning, and saw Slavs as inferior. this completely alienated a possible base of support, which contributed to the absolutely tenacious Russian resistance. that's why I said that the authors conjecture, in which the Soviets would collapse after the fall of Moscow, was an underestimation.

    they also launched the invasion a bit too late in the year. the mud slowed their advance, clogged engines, etc.

    Even with a better execution, I still see Operation Barbarossa as a major strategic risk. I've always believed that the Mediterranean option was best. fortify the Eastern Front, and concentrate forces under the Afrika Korps. rely on the Desert Fox Rommel to consolidate gains in North Africa and the Middle East. there were many Arabs sympathetic to the Nazis, which would've helped. with Middle Eastern oil, Germany could've fueled their Panzers and Junkers as long as needed. this would've given them secure footing, and the capability to defend against a Soviet invasion and/or make further gains.
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  2. GaLaTeA

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    Hell no.

    He was the furthest thing from a perfectionist - more along the lines of an endless sea of frustrations, deviations, inferiority complexes and low iq. One of the worst human cocktails ever to roam this planet.

    Conquering didn't cost him the war, it was poor decision making and ill organisation skills, lack of diplomacy that killed it.

    Plus having Eichmann in position of any sort of power when it came to snatching trains to deport people instead of having those make transports of weapons & everything else soldiers needed on front lines was collossally moronic.
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  3. Geedorah

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    Lol, writing Hitler had low iq is ignorant.
    Lack of diplomacy?
    He offered peace to England and France.
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  4. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    People think he's some sort of super genius, but he's not.

    He had no talent for art, yet persued painting. He wrote one book, and it was awful from every standpoint. And his initial rise to power consisted more of brazen attitudes and blind luck than any tactical merit.
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  5. Geedorah

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    Blind luck?:obamalulz:
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  6. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    Considering he never got over forty percent approval in the polls during his rise to power, despite assassinating the opposition? His Munich Beer Putsch speech?

    He had every advantage in the Battle of Britian, and still blew it.
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  7. Geedorah

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  8. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    He sure does have a funny accent, huh?

    "Before the war, and still more during the conquest of the West, Hitler
    came to appear a gigantic figure, combining the strategy of a Napoleon
    with the cunning of a Machiavelli and the fanatical fevour of a Mohomet.
    After his first check in Russia, his figure began to shrink, and towards the
    end he was regarded as a blundering amateur in the military field, whose
    crazy orders and crass ignorance had been the Allies' greatest asset. All
    the disasters of the German Army were attributed to Hitler; all its
    successes were credited to the German General Staff."
    B. H. Liddell Hart [1]
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  9. Geedorah

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    Maybe for mericans.
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  10. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    He's an Austrian in Germany. That's what I meant by 'funny acent.'

    Also, America number one. Back to back World War winner. Single handedl saved Earth from evil forces of no-good despots.

    USA! USA! USA!
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  11. Geedorah

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    Ofc you are,going to wars which are almost over, or going to wars against nation that is noticeably weaker.
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  12. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    Well yeah... it would be stupid to do otherwise.
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  13. IAmBenT

    IAmBenT Eat a dick, faggot

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    Regardless of IQ he made a shit-ton of mistakes bro, history proves it, Russia was too unstoppable, and US came in to finish the job.
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  14. Geedorah

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    Every leader makes mistakes.
    He would conquer Russia(European part) if he didnt focus on Ukraine.
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  15. Caesar

    Caesar Natural Aristocracy

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    Hitler's IQ was somewhere in the +3-4 SD range.

    Above-average, but not genius level.
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  16. Geedorah

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    Nobody wrote he is genius, but writing he has low iq is equally stupid.
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  17. AliceHouse

    AliceHouse The House Always Wins

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    Making a few mistakes is one thing. An entire career of nothing but mistakes is another.
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  18. Geedorah

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  19. Gen The God

    Gen The God The Life or Death Poet

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    How can I put this? Einstein was a genius, but couldn't tie his shoes correctly. Hitler had an average IQ but was a master orator and manipulator of emotions. He was a horrible battlefield strategist, but he was a brilliant diplomat (albeit a iron-fisted one).

    We will never know, but I believe the Germans had a clear advantage over the Americans soldier for soldier in 1944. It was extremely difficult to gradually break down the German war machine even after having complete air superiority and facing half-starved and under-equipped German troops. I'm not taking anything away from our troops that fought hard and won the war, but I doubt the Allies are able to break out in France (even if they were able to land) against a Germany that wasn't so depleted due to numerous strategic blunders in Russia.
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  20. reggie jax

    reggie jax Well-Known Member

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    isn't that the highest range there is?

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