Hitler wasn't such a bad guy

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  1. Bakez0151

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    wel fuckin cut a fat swastika in2 ur chest u nazi twat
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    obvious troll is obvious.
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  4. Jizzurrection

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    Wow I am still reading this horrible thread but I just want to say that Hitler is the biggest mass murdering pig in history.

    One of the main reasons Stalin is #2 in my sig is because he led the Red Army and left this Nazi prick dead and rotting in a bunker where he belongs.
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  5. serge dot T

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    Stalin is far and beyond the worst mass murderer in history.

    "A SINGLE death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic."- Stalin

    Terrible, TERRIBLE comparison. Stalin just kept to himself and only killed his own people while Hitler brought war to the world, but Stalins death toll was much, much higher as far as people victimized by his regime goes.

    You have something that resembles the right idea, but for all the wrong reasons. Hitler was a hero to Germany because he was the standout figure in one of the biggest civil unrests the worlds ever seen, this brought on by the ridiculous stipulations of the treaty of Versailles from WW1. Germany viewed him as a hero and would have followed him into hell if need be because he represented them as oppressed and made them believe that they weren't the 2nd class nation that they were raised to believe that they were because of WW1.

    He's despicable for bringing war to the world and systematically killing a civilization because he felt that they were the reason for every chip he had on his shoulder, apart from being sad that his mother died. He went from being the definition of patriot to a delusional sadist that believed that he was literally Godsent, using his popularity (understatement) to lead his own people to believe that they were above others to the point that those others' lives were worth less.

    The contrast to Stalin here is that Hitler planned on spreading his doctrine by suppressing everyone else in the world with it instead of being political about it. Where Stalin made friends with nations so he could continue to satiate his thirst for blood locally and influence others to do it similarly in their own land, Hitler wanted everyone to fall in line under HIM.

    Stalin was NOT a better man than Hitler by ANY comparison.
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  6. Tradish

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    to me, yea thats exactly what ur saying when u make general statements like Hitler was a genius.

    vick is different but it still applies to people who know him only for the controversy and not as a football player.

    so if u say vick was a genius...it seems like ur stemming it from him just killing dogs and if u have that opinion u support him killing dogs.

    I could also say vick was a genius the way he killed innocent dogs and boost his fame an notoriety. which is a lil less general, but standing by itself there is nothing genius about killing dogs.

    hitler using peoples hate for jews to rise to the top..that was genius...saying it like that is less general.

    but he prolly was just satisfying his own hate which is more like an accident than actual brilliance.

    imo anyways.
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    skip 7 giant pages like a fucking boss...

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  9. SuomiMetal

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    Wow, twin and jdm are just incredibly dim. I couldn't even get through the 2nd page without wondering where your guardian went for such a long period. Such ignorance.

    Hey dumbass, ever enjoyed any 60s, 70s, or 80s music? Ever thought the quality bests that of today's digitized recordings? Well, then it's much to your chagrin that you enjoyed one of the things that WWII and the Third Reich specifically contributed to society via magnetic tape.

    Hitler was an evil fuck, and a number of his actions are indefensible, but to say that he contributed nothing to society is just ignorant.
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    Yes, and those microphones are still the best in the industry today. A real vintage Neumann is a highly sought after item. Most hip-hop you hear done professionally was likely recorded on a Neumann U87 or maybe even a U47. They are renowned for their clarity and overall timbre. I believe it was said he wanted his voice in his speeches to be "like the voice of God." Seeing this in person at the time would be like attending your first concert, with the twist that it was also the first time that technology was being used.
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  11. Jizzurrection

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    That is not a real quote.

    This is not true. The statistics of people that you are thinking of that were "killed by Stalin" are based on discredited Cold War propaganda. The number of people slaughtered by the Nazis, on the other hand, is not in dispute at all. Between the Holocaust and the war casualties (especially Soviet war casualties) the Nazis are by far the biggest mass murderers history has ever produced.

    Hitler rose to power because the Nazis has massive financial and propaganda support from German industry and capitalists abroad. This allowed them to launch a massive propaganda and violence offensive (with the support of the government) against the German Communist Party and the Social Democrats. Before his seizure of power the Nazis were never more popular than the leftist parties.

    The German left was just really divided (mainly because of the Social Democrats decades-long tradition of backstabbing the left and supporting the German government). The Nazis main base of support was always German industrialists and a few elements of the German middle class who were drawn to the Nazi promise to "destroy Marxism."

    By the way, what you are saying about Hitler's supposed accomplishments apply tenfold to Stalin. After the rise of Nazism Germany was already one of the most advanced and industrialized countries in the world. Under Stalin's leadership, the Soviet Union was transformed from one of the most backward countries in Europe to the world's second most powerful industrial superpower in a decade. And the Soviets did follow him to hell -- a hell created by the Nazis who were responsible for tens of millions of Soviet deaths in the war.

    This is psycho-babble. There were titanic political and economic transformations going on in Europe during the early 1930s -- understanding those things is how you understand the rise and fall of Nazism. You don't understand things by studying Hitler's relationship with his mom.

    Outcome of Nazism: Tens of millions dead.
    Outcome of Stalin's leadership: Soviet Union industrialized, Nazism and Japanese fascism defeated, socialism spread to Eastern Europe, China and other places (something like 1/4 of the world's population).
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  12. Bakez0151

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    jizz jus bodied serge

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    acting like you could even understand what was being said?

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    why wouldnt i understand wat he said

    i got an A in tha shit lad shut the fuck up n go worship hitler u nazi twat
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    wut did u just sey bruv?
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  16. NiceWithTheCuts

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    The attitudes displayed here are disapointing to say the least. Europeans should be wiser about the revisiosnist view of hitler and his legacy. Dude exoploited a time where europe was full of weak leaders and appeasers, making him seem like a genius. Hitler surrounded himself with people who where highly intelligent in strategy (rommel for example), making himslef look genius. But he was far from it. He was emotional, irrational, and his love of corny occult myths sealed his deal. If he was the geniys you idiots kep sayong he was, he wouldve solidified his gains.

    Trishchrisna is a loser who thinks he has some special insight on the topic because he looking at the topic detached. lol. I blame all these young dumb kids playing ww2 call of duty, delevoping some sort of empathy for the germans.
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  17. TsirhCitna

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    what are you even talking about? the whole time the discussion has been how smart someone is and nothing more.

    you're a dumbass for looking at it any other way, horrible mass murders notwithstanding


    and a loser ~lol~
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  18. serge dot T

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    This is not true. The statistics of people that you are thinking of that were "killed by Stalin" are based on discredited Cold War propaganda. The number of people slaughtered by the Nazis, on the other hand, is not in dispute at all. Between the Holocaust and the war casualties (especially Soviet war casualties) the Nazis are by far the biggest mass murderers history has ever produced.


    The purges and the Ukraine famine alone tally up to the lower 20 millions. Not war casualties, pure genocide.


    Hitler rose to power because the Nazis has massive financial and propaganda support from German industry and capitalists abroad. This allowed them to launch a massive propaganda and violence offensive (with the support of the government) against the German Communist Party and the Social Democrats. Before his seizure of power the Nazis were never more popular than the leftist parties.

    They WERE a leftist party. You're agreeing with me and adding to the subject, which I appreciate. You admit that those who funded his cause knew he was going places.



    The German left was just really divided (mainly because of the Social Democrats decades-long tradition of backstabbing the left and supporting the German government). The Nazis main base of support was always German industrialists and a few elements of the German middle class who were drawn to the Nazi promise to "destroy Marxism."

    Another added element to my established point that Hitler was the standout.


    By the way, what you are saying about Hitler's supposed accomplishments apply tenfold to Stalin. After the rise of Nazism Germany was already one of the most advanced and industrialized countries in the world. Under Stalin's leadership, the Soviet Union was transformed from one of the most backward countries in Europe to the world's second most powerful industrial superpower in a decade. And the Soviets did follow him to hell -- a hell created by the Nazis who were responsible for tens of millions of Soviet deaths in the war.

    This is true but doesn't apply to my point. I already compared both figures and added that they differ in that Hitler took his cause on a global scale. You're arguing a debate that hasn't been made.


    This is psycho-babble. There were titanic political and economic transformations going on in Europe during the early 1930s -- understanding those things is how you understand the rise and fall of Nazism. You don't understand things by studying Hitler's relationship with his mom.

    How does that have anything to do with him as an individual?? I expressed my opinion backed by psychological fact on the holocaust and his personal reasons for it and you're talking about the rise and fall of nazism., something I already addressed in this thread before and you are more than welcome to back-page and read on. Again, you're arguing phantom debates.



    Outcome of Nazism: Tens of millions dead.
    Outcome of Stalin's leadership: Soviet Union industrialized, Nazism and Japanese fascism defeated, socialism spread to Eastern Europe, China and other places (something like 1/4 of the world's population).



    Something else I already said. You basically repeated my points, added a little background and made up your own arguments instead of tackling head on the single fact that Stalin murdered more people than Hitler. Congratulations on your pro-communist rant.

    The difference is that noone gave a fuck because they were his OWN people. So when almost 10 million starved to death in the Urkraine, the only reprimand (none) was that in 2003, the UN recognized it as a crime against humanity. Go figure.

    Stalin was a blood thirsty mongrel, as was Hitler. He is indeed a polarizing figure worthy of admiration in many respects, as was Hitler, but you're vastly overstating his accomplishments. He turned Russia into a Superpower as a result of winning the war, good for him. He turned Russia from an agrarian state into an industrial force, granted. Tens of Millions OF HIS OWN PEOPLE still died in the gulags and Communist famines. If you want to turn a blind eye to those facts, be my guest and keep him in your top 5 communist circlejerk in your sig. If you justify those actions as a means to an end, you're as bad as a nazi sympathizer, or a hypocrite.

    My point remains that Stalin is no better man than Hitler (they're equally sick, maybe a slight edge to Stalin for not waging world war), not a better orator and certainly not a more talented politician. Did he do more with less? Yes. Were his methods despicable? HE REPRESSED HIS OWN AND USED HIS STARVING CITIZENS AS A MEANS TO AN END. Hell no he wasn't the leader that Hitler was. Russians call WW2 "the patriotic war". They did NOT fight for STALIN, they fought for RUSSIA. Germans didn't fight for Germany, they fought for HITLER. Hitler achieved a cult of personality far greater than Stalin could have dreamed of and he didn't do it by forcing his people into his doctrine.
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    Wrong. American TV has taken over the world with less of a bodycount, and its far more entertaining than one of hitlers nationalistic german jerkoff speeches.
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