Discussion in 'IntroSpectrum' started by Geedorah, Oct 17, 2011.
"Did Hitler really kill 6 millions Jews?"
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I wonder if Hitler not only killed Ashkenazis but also anybody that wasn't a Nazi in Germany at the time. Had to be more than just "Jews" that he killed off in that country at the time. Not all the Europeans he slaughtered were Jews. I just don't believe it. I honestly think his targets were anybody that was non-white or non-nazi.
Don't play stupid...um, yeah...guess you're not playing...
Oh snap, things are just going to get real.
This topic isn't about slavery of your ancestors, it's about establishing / discussing the potential doubt and/or ever growing question, if Hitler actually had 6 million Jewish lives extinguished during the course of WWII. Simple to comprehend? Should be.
...I so adore it when people pull out the slavery card, as if they feel the need to emphesise that their, or should I say sorrows and pain of their ancestors are somehow greater than suffering of another person being inflicted with some of the same or worse practises committed against human kind.
So in a way, you'd say that no one in the course of entire world history suffered more than your ancestors did? Really? Ever seen the consequesnces of Srebrenica's genocide? Ever seen what goes on in Afganistan and Iraq? Ever been to Tanzania? Ever been to China? Ever been to Vietnam? Ever been to South Africa? But this thread is useless with involving who suffered more than who, since it's going off-course the whole point of the thread.
De facto prove me beyond the reasonable doubt, that I have ever said that slavery never happened. And do find the quote.
...again, you failed to produce one key quote I asked for, in regards of where I supposedly claimed slavery never happened. If you'd be kind as to find it.
...champion? Reading comprehension is key.
...and finally, "you people"?
Stopped reading after you failed to produce the quote. Produce the quote. Prove I ever said what you accused me of. PROVE IT.
I'm not Jewish.
Sorry, I stopped reading after you called me stupid .
Now, what was this thread about again?
6 million jews dead...wow...really?
Find the quote, and since you're being evasive, I'll pretend that I'm not aware of the fact that you're unable of producing the quote, since no such quote exists.
what quote are you talking about? I never quoted you? and I never said you said anything?
you need some aspirin?
sorry homie, i haven't added anything to this convo, and I am not sure why you are bringing my words back into it, but I'll stay away from this as i have...........just leave it at that man, and let the thread continue, cause this is a very well evolved thread...........
Let's also keep in mind that by this time the National Socialists were using a lower quality one called 'coke', so we need to find out the optimal temperatures, how much they would have needed and how much they actually had / had the capability to mine.
didn't they have most of western europe's as well as parts of south america as their playground for mining and such?
Actually no, Aryan didn't mean 'white.' at all. You could have been Aryan if you were Japanese, or Black or whatever - but you could not be Jewish.
For example the SS = Aryan.
The Wermacht = Mostly Non-Aryan.
“We have this folk of ours that is not to be defined as a race, and this is now clear to millions. However, when I began my career twenty-five years ago, this was not the case; then I was always told by bourgeois circles: “Yes, folk and race are one and the same.” No, folk and race are not the same! Race is a component of blood – a blood kernel, but a folk is very often composed not of one but of two, three, four or five different blood kernels.” – Adolf Hitler
“The misery of the nations has not been relieved but has increased. The deepest roots of this misery, however, lie in the division of the world into conquerers and conquered.” – Adolf Hitler
“The decisive problem which alone remained was thus: What was the method by which one was to find these men who as successors of the former creators of the body of our people and therefore as their heirs could today maintain their work? Here there was but one possibility: one could not from the race infer the capacity but one had to infer from the capacity the racial fitness for the task.” – Adolf Hitler
“We do not conclude from a man’s physical type his ability, but rather from his achievements his race.” – Adolf Hitler
Going through National Socialist stuff for years it becomes quite clear to the reader that most of what we know about them today, in political terms, is mostly hollywood. National Socialism was an attempt to re-create mankind anew, they were looking for people (of all colors) who possibly had descended from the Aryans of legend. Aryan means nothing more than "Arya", which means Noble. The Swastika was supposedly the sign of this people and we find it the world over...
It's actually an interesting theory to be honest...
That said, Jews cannot be Aryan according to National Socialism because they are the herders, the Gentiles are the hunters - both are not noble. Jews are even worse than Gentiles according to them because they are not even 'human' at all.
In fact according to some parts of NS the Jew is literally a living Demon.
Indeed they did but when the war began the South American mining operations became limited and by the time the mass murders began they had ceased altogether.
So did they store any of what was mined from SA? Possibly. I'll need to check, but I doubt it. I'm sure a lot of what was mined was used almost immediately in the war effort.
As for Europe, yes there was mining going on - now we need to find out how much was mined, capabilities/amount per year (which should descend as their territory shrank to the allies.) how much they saved, how hot does coke burn, how much is needed in a 24 hour period etc etc.
Oh boy we're going to have to get our math hats on.
Man I suck at this shit before I have a coffee...
yeh the question about how much fuel required adds another element to the equation
and there were without doubt other operations far more important to them that would have required fuel too
way too much research and too little time for me to be bothered
i'm going on a holiday for 4-8 tomorrow so i'll check on your progress in a few years
trolling aside, it has been interesting.
yes, they used coke as fuel. they made many shipments of it to keep the furnaces burning. however, there are other variables to consider. it takes less fuel to keep up a high temperature than it takes to heat it up. also, the bodies themselves would've partially contributed as fuel, and they injected compressed air to assist in the burning. when they were low on coke, they burned wood, which was in plentiful supply in the rural locations of the death camps.
the fact is that this industrialized genocide did happen. No one has demonstrated what else could've happened to the millions of Jews who disappeared after WWII.
Also Anne Frank diary was written in ball point pen.
In 'Eisenhower’s Death Camps': A U.S. Prison Guard Remembers
Never thought bout tattoos this way.
they lied to you.
I sincerely hope you're trolling.
It's well known he killed gays, any political opposition, communists, anybody who used freedom of speech in a way he didn't agree with, the disabled (mental and physical), gypsies, POW's, Poles, Slavs, Jehova's Witnesses and free masons.
Around 6 million jews were killed, but millions of others were also killed.
Separate names with a comma.