Err...it's really not that simple. Nothing is universally panned or admired. Rules of the Game, a 1939 French film is widely regarded as the second or third greatest film of all time by film enthusiasts and critics. The average movie goer would probably find it lame and boring as shit. Neither group is necessarily right. And Charron and HFK's performance is hardly equatable to Glitter, more to, like you said, an Adam Sandler movie. And you know a lot of people out there would rather watch The Waterboy or Billy Madison than Godfather or Citizen Kane (Fresco and Real Deal). Shit you might be one of them. Doesn't make one group superior to the other. Edit: Sorry I realized my point is pretty random and may be hard to understand. Basically I just don't like elitism in any sort of thing, and I see this whole "Oh people that like jokes, their opinions shouldn't matter" or "it's bad to like jokes over bars" thing as elitism. Yeah, maybe they don't know as much about battling or whatever but is that grounds for their opinions to not count or to be condescending towards them? If you haven't seen half of the movies on the TSPDT top 1000 and I have does that mean my taste in film is better than yours? If I've been listening to hip-hop for twenty years and you've only been listening to it for five do I automatically determine who's good and who's not to you?