HERES YOUR PERFORMANCE ANSWERS(both ps3 and xbox 360 specs inside)

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  1. BoogaTheGreat

    BoogaTheGreat yuuule!

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    ^ yea but they made it similar to the nvidia video cards this time around to make it easier to program games, cuz ask any programmer...programming for ps2 was HARD

    so think about what they're actually gonna be able to do with these games now with the nvidia...cuz most programmers know how to program for that..a.nd some said it was easier to program for than ATI...emphasis on the SOME

    and sony did that with the cpu cuz the PS3 is about more than just gaming..thats the whole point, it does sooooooooo much more, and thats a big reason taht i want to get it...cuz like right now i use my ps2 as my dvd player and cd player also...

    and dog, you sound REALLY corny right now making it out like MS is the good guys and Sony are the bad uguys and have some lil conspiracy

    I hadta lol at that..really


    and Lostboy, the PSP and PS3 can connect thru the bluetooth technology and thru a USB chord and from across the country like i said on a WiFi network...yup
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  2. LiQuiD6

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    lol....your completely backwards on your idea's...your taking what youve read and twisting them to fit your opinion......the 360 will be easier to make games for....not the ps3.......the cpu determines how the programming will be effected....not the video card....and since the ps3 uses a completely different architecture in design...(as they did with the ps2 by using risc processing)....it will be harder to develop for....theres a reason that xbox 360 games can run on lower settings on dual g5's.....because its similar to the development platforms in existance to an extent......the graphic cards main job is to lessen load on the cpu


    as far as the ps3 doing so much more......i doubt it will...cause thats not what sony is good at.....sony said the same thign about the ps2...it was supposed to be an all in one entertainment device......yet thier online service is shoddy at best and not as developmed as microsofts....mainly because this is where microsoft excells......just think about it...microsoft develops software for media centers using thier os...this is a part of the market where sony is completely NEW to.....

    and about sony being evil......lol....no...its about using logic to see whats going to happen in this situation....im not saying sony will fail......cause they defintately wont...they have the japanese market by the throat......and i dont think anyone will take that from them any time soon....(maybe nintendo if any one)....
    BUT.....microsoft is a company that has been doing development for years....understand where this market is going.......between the internet...and media capabilities.....Microsoft has the resources and technologies ALREADY in place...to do what they have to do to gain control of the industry by influencing cross technlogies...like the pc platform.....microsoft has been looking for many years for the main piece to thier convergence puzzle...and the video game market is that piece.......Sony...is in unchartered territory.......They failed on a lot of thier promises with the ps2......what held them up was having dvd support early on...and developing a good 3rd party backing......to say that the ps3 is more about gaming is trivial......because sony has made no efforts to even build up its existing online service....theres so many more sony customers in this country........and only about 500,000 of them go online....microsoft comes out 2 years later......and has an online service user base of 2 million.......why? because that is what microsoft DID before getting involved in the console market.....

    its common sense bro...theres no favoritism.......i personally cant stand microsoft for some of the shit they do....but they KNOW what they are doing within this industry......they are gonna use the console market to catapult thier convergence idea's......
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  3. BoogaTheGreat

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    TRue that sony's online service isnt as good....but like you said thats MS's thing so ofcourse they should do that right. buuuuuuut even tho MS's online is soooo much better, Sony has many more online users.

    more people use ps2's online than use xbox live. and sony conceeded that their online venture wasnt up to par and have taken ideas from MS and some of their own and are promising improvements this time around. I have no reason so think they are lieing. and I aint say PS3 would be easier to program for than 360. I said it was alot easier to program for than the PS2 and ps2 had alooooot more games than xbox and better games so just htink about it, with it being easier to program now PS3 games are gonna be doooooope

    anyway the performance on tha ps3 is gonna be better, graphics will be close. so my decision on which system to purchase comes down to the games and i gotta go with ps3
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  4. LiQuiD6

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    sony should have more users...its a free service that anyone can just plug in and hook up......microsofts service requires a credit card......and costs 50 bucks a year.......microsofts service was much more successful as a whole as a business opportunity


    people who say the ps2 has alot more better games.....name ps2 titles that you cant play on xbox that are must own......aside from metal gear, gran turismo, socom and the final fantasy series....the gta series isnt a true sony exclusive....it just has a time exclusivity.you cant say much else...so whats the hype about? both systems have a strong title base....ps2 fans always make it seem like they are the only ones with good games...they just fail to realize other games based on popularity which usually rate very highly but might not sell as much.....

    i can easily say the ps2 dont have halo, unreal championship, doom 3 or chronicles of riddick, ninja gaiden, forza or morrowind.....
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  5. BoogaTheGreat

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    that's exactly what sony DOES have metal gear, gran turismo, socom and the final fantasy series. Those are some of the best selling games EVER..they all hit number 1 when they come out in EACH installment

    and xbox has halo, unreal championship, doom 3 or chronicles of riddick, ninja gaiden, forza or morrowind....but halo and unreal are the only ones that really hit number 1 each time they come out....Sony just has better games like I said

    and GTA isn't completely exclusive but it still hits sony systems first so ehh
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  6. LiQuiD6

    LiQuiD6 Left hook Justice

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    since when does sales = a better game?


    there are more people with sony machines...so its obvious they hold number 1 sale spots.....they SHOULD...they had a headstart with the ps1 and a 2 year headstart with the ps2.....

    Chronicles of riddick was runner up for game of the year for 2004....halo 2 won action game of the year or game of the year depending on the publication..ninja gaiden won many genre game of the year awards as well..morrowind was rpg of the year when it was released....star wars kotor was game of the year and rpg of the year on its release of 2003 on many publications...part 2 garnered similar awards.....


    lol @ sales = how good a game is......if thats the case.....madden = better then metal gear (sarcasm).....


    and as far as gta coming out first on the ps2 and nullifying the fact that we get it....well...lets not talk about splinter cell....which is barely as fun to play on a ps2...


    and finally...just to put a nail in the coffin regarding the subject of power....heres what ign.com printed... (this site heavily favors sony)...yet posted this ms report

    http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/617/617951p1.html



    heres the summary

    which is what ive said.....SINCE DAY UNO.......
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  7. Ixo

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    Graphics don't mean shii in the gaming community and PS2 vs XBox has proved that. Xbox, yeh it has a faster GPU...Xbox had some nice ass graphics that could beat PS2 anyday with...but what has XBox got to offer? Xbox comes out with one hit wonders and the rest of they games either 1) Not good or 2)Ported from another system or the game is available on all the others.

    Look at the line up XBox had to offer when it came to number one hits. It had:

    -Halo and Halo 2
    -Ninja Gaiden
    -Knights of the Republic 1 & 2
    -Fable
    -If you wanna count...that Forenza racin game shii they just put out

    Name another game that came out on XBox first and was a big hit. Name another game that belongs on that list. And you don't want me to hit up PS2's lineup...wait...n/m, i will.

    Final Fantasy Series
    MGS Series
    Grand Turismo Series
    GTA Series
    Ratchet & Clank/Jax & Daxter Series
    Devil May Cry (The first)
    God of War


    I mean damn...DoA don't got nothin on Tekken. Xbox can't even sale in Japan like they want to. Games make the system...I could name ol school NES, SNES, and Genesis games that are better than most of this shit they putting out. Games make the system. PS will have the same kind of lineup they had for the PS2 to be on PS3...Xbox will have the same lineup they have for Xbox to be on the Xbox 360...you'll find out quickly who'll succeed in the gaming world.


    P.S. Don't come at me with the Xbox Live stuff. Paying so that you can play someone online is obscene unless the game is made for that (ie: EQ, FFXI, etc). And plus they stated at E3 with their interview with G4 that they were trying to attract audiences that don't play games and to focus on their system to just be a new technology tool more than a gaming system??? They're going to shoot themselves in the foot...

    EDITED: Oh, don't you think it's kinda weird on Xbox's thoughts on "backward compatability"? Xbox 360 is only going to play certain games from XBox on it's system? That's so fukin stupid. So that means if you wanna play some of those games that you "thought" were good...you'd have to pop back out your old Xbox because you'll prolly only get to play the games I listed up there on the list for Xbox on the Xbox 360. On the other hand, PS3 got they act together...allowing you to play both PS and PS2 games...ALL THE DAMN GAMES. Ya'll goin to learn one of these days that games make the system...

    (All my information comes from Ign.com, gamespot.com, and g4tv.com)
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  8. relliK dnegeL

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    too much reading
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  9. BoogaTheGreat

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    Ikky said what i wanted to say
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  10. LiQuiD6

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    oh...you mean like the ps2? which doesnt play ALL ps1 games.......microsoft is just covering thier asses so they dont make the same mistake sony did.....lol...your one of those people who quickly forget sony's fuck ups.......

    and one of the main reasons the japanese dont buy the xbox is cause they still associate it as an "expensive" game unit......




    lets see....you forgot many of microsofts top tier exclusive titles...but i guess you wouldnt be aware of them just cause they dont "sell" as much...

    first off...lol @ you saying that "fordsarza" (forza motorsport game that they just put out...which is garnering respect in many publications as the NEW king of racers...(knocking gran turismo out its spot) yet you mention the new god of war in your ps2 list like nothing....pure brand loyalty right there

    lets take a look at some highly respected xbox games in the industry...which might or might not have sold well.....but garnered much respect or had cult followings because the game was THAT Good...and also got good reviews from major publications


    Psychonauts
    Unreal Championship series
    Jade empire
    Doom 3
    project gotham racing series
    Mech Assault series
    crimson skies
    Shenmue 2
    Otogi series
    Death row
    panzar dragoon orta


    to deny that microsoft has put together a good game library in their short time in the market is rediculous....you just have tunnel vision and see only SONY....
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  11. Ixo

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    Name the PS game that PS2 could not play. I don't remember that fuck up from Sony. And yeh I remember Sony's fuck ups...such as a limited supply of PS2's at launch and the laser eye reading problem with the first shipments of PS2's...nah I ain't forgot bout em

    Expensive game unit? Xbox sold in Japan the same price if not less than the PS2's launch price...





    That's the point...Microsoft just has one hit wonders. They come out with a nice ass game that's for XBox only (hence the ones i listed) not often. All the other Xbox exclusive or started games ain't even on the level with their top sellers. That's the type of thing you can expect from Xbox 360...One hit wonders and multiplatform titles. Most people don't get Xbox when it comes to a multiplatform game because they can already play it on their current system.

    I mean either they are multiplatform titles or in the 8 and lower average score rating. All of the titles I'm pulling from PS2's are averaging 9+ scores. Not much of a difference but ummm...God of War beat Forza's average score by .1 of a point.

    They put together a small good game library compared to PS2's. I'm not tunnel vision either...cuz in my opinion, Gamecube got Xbox beat on a bigger good game library and is a big rival when it comes to great selling games to Ps2. No beef intended...i'm just glad that I'm able to argue someone down defending Xbox who can back up what they say.


    (I take my average scores from happypuppy.com. They take the top game reviewing sites scores and average them together to get a good solid rating.)
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  12. LiQuiD6

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    no doubt.....no beef over video games...that shit is just foolish..its just mindless messageboard entertainment...


    as far as coverage of the exclusive titles...unreal championship is an xbox only series......unreal tournament is the pc exclusive series........championship has different leves, gameplay physics, maps, just about everything is different...especially for championship 2 which was different from anything ever done on the unreal platform for pc or any other system with the melee fighting.....


    yes...the japanese still consider the xbox as an expensive unit...regardless of price...the japanese consumer views things differently from the american consumer.....thier perception of a product is more important then what is actually true of it......there was an article about this on EGM about 2-3 months ago....


    and whats with the one hit wonders? how do you call them one hit wonders...the xbox system is a baby compared to sony's years between the ps1 and ps2.....they are building a lot of franchises exclusive to thier system.....and many of those franchises are from microsoft studios regardless of aquisitions...how many big sony titles are from sony?? besides the jak and dexter/rachet and clank........none..

    microsoft studios has:

    halo
    halo 2
    forza
    jade empire
    star wars kotor
    project gotham
    crimson skies
    midtown madness
    phantasy star online
    mech assault
    voodoo vince
    rally sport

    with conkers bad fur day coming soon and kameo coming in with the 360...

    how many NEW refreshing franchises is that, that arent 3rd party? those are the best racing, fps and rpg's in the industry right now......what more can you ask for?

    sony has nothing but 3rd party support.....the japanese are brand loyal out the ass....which is why japanese developers favor the sony platform....so they sign exclusivity licenses like nuffin
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  13. Ixo

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    I gotta admit...i been a lil blind to Xbox...you actually enlightened me a good bit.

    The new franchises the Xbox is comming out with has started nicely yes...but some of those hit franchises that they are pulling out come from "not so big of a name" game devolopers...You think they [IE: Day 1 Studios, Digital Illusions] are trustworthy of making a sequel to the game or continuing their franchise without making the sucessors not sell as big? (IE: Devil May Cry) That's what Xbox customers will have to watch out for because most of those developers you have not heard of till you bought their latest hit.

    The third parties Sony got hitting them up are big names with previous experience on how to make franchises and have their sequel come up to par. (IE: Konami, Square Enix, Rockstar (Even though they branch out eventually...they still debut games for Sony only for the start)) Not with just one game...but with series and time after time debuts of franchises. But then again, your statement with Xbox being a baby stops that statement I made for the moment.

    I'll give Xbox 360 2 years, actually, 2 years and a half since their comming out early and I'll give PS3 2 years and we'll see the results of the early next gen war...
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  14. Alexanderdahate

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    liquid you sound like an ati whore and give me a direct link on the xbox360 thing from ign thanks not to mention if thats a directly qoute i don't think they'd spell probably wrong. i found the link and they did spell it wrong but you forgot the main meat and potatos of the article ..right???? to get your point across

    We decided to put this Microsoft-provided information up undigested. Thus, enclosed is a Microsoft-made comparitive analysis. We have not altered, added, or tinkered with the data. We have not interpreted the specs. We have cut and pasted this information from the email into our site and formatted it. Make of it what you will, but be clear we know Microsoft has clearly slanted this info, and we're not endorsing it, just printing their version. There is a difference.
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  15. Insense

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    damn the ps3 looks hella nice....heard PS2 games will work on them as well
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    lol.....did i say it was an ign report?? no....wtf did i say in my post..and i quote

    there have been many reports on this same jist from respectable engineer's and industry specialists....want me to link those up too? I would believe what MS says about thier machine beyond sony.....Sony has already bullshitted the hell out of the ps2 before launch...yet sony "whores" (as you call them) seem to forget about it very quickly......microsoft has delivered on all of thier promises........Sony hasnt
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    lmao@boogathegreat getting roasted and not posting again...

    i could tell from your first post that u REALLY didn't know what you were talkin about...ya post reaks of heresay...
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  18. LostBoySince'86

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    sony's "future of gaming" setup is bullshit anyway. they havent even finished their chips.

    at least microsoft tells the truth about what they are doing.
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  19. LiQuiD6

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    yep......thats my whole arguement right there...

    sony pulled this same bullshit on the ps2....but cats seem to forget that......
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    Cell Processor
    PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz
    and the 369 has
    Three symmetrical cores running at 3.2 GHz each
    do the math
    3.2+3.2+3.2=9.6GHz VS 3.2GHz
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    2nd
    Memory:
    256MB
    and now xbox360
    512 MB Unified memory architecture
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    the Cell might not be that strong since they still being tested
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    you can put porn on the 360.
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