Here's why I didn't convert to Islam.

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  1. M-theory

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    Is it wrong to say what Muhammad looks like? Because if this really is referring to Muhammad, it seems to paint a vivid portrait of him.

    Young women of Jerusalem, I charge you: if you find my love, tell him that I am lovesick. What makes the one you love better than another, most beautiful of women? What makes him better than another, that you would give us this charge? My love is fit and strong, notable among ten thousand. His head is purest gold. His hair is wavy and black as a raven. His eyes are like doves beside streams of water, washed in milk and set like jewels. His cheeks are like beds of spice, towers of perfume. His lips are lilies, dripping with flowing myrrh. His arms are rods of gold set with topaz. His body is an ivory panel covered with sapphires. His legs are alabaster pillars set on pedestals of pure gold. His presence is like Lebanon, as majestic as the cedars. His mouth is sweetness. He is absolutely desirable. This is my love, and this is my friend, young women of Jerusalem.
    (Son 5:8-16 HCSB)

    I don't quite think it could be naming Muhammad, it as the context of the verse 16 fits so well with the text leading up to it. It's all description. I suppose maybe, but I'm no expert.
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  2. Nu'maaN

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    oh, okay. my bad.

    i thought the passage was revealed after the death of jesus, hence.

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  3. Nu'maaN

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    wow, i've never come across this passage ever before.

    as for the looks of muhammad, he had long wavy black hair parted at the middle.

    there's an entire book about his appearance, but it's discouraged to draw him.

    [youtube]8LS4BWOMpc4[/youtube]

    sheikh hamza yusuf talks about it in the lecture.

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  4. M-theory

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    He's really just inserting מַחֲמַדִּ into an online translator, which makes me really skeptical.
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    I think the passage is supposed to be Jesus' own word about his own words:

    The one who doesn't love Me will not keep My words. The word that you hear is not Mine but is from the Father who sent Me.
    (Joh 14:24 HCSB)
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  7. Nu'maaN

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  8. Coup d'état

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    The entire fabric, history and doctrine of your false religion is known.

    It is not a question. Islam is a false religion.
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  9. Nu'maaN

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    fair enough, that's pretty obvious from that passage.

    but i was referring to the passages below.

    who is the "comforter" that prophet isa is referring to here?

    but whatsoever he shall hear, shall he speak is gabriel reciting to muhammad?

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  10. M-theory

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    I was wondering if that's what you meant, I just didn't say anything. lol



    It's a good question to be honest. The Christian answer is that it's the third person/hypostasis of the Trinity, which is called the Holy Spirit.

    According to Islam, yes.
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  11. Nu'maaN

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    the holy spirit in islam is considered to be gabriel.

    so it was referring to either a) gabriel, or b) muhammad.

    either way though, as you pointed out, these are islamic thoughts.

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  12. lyricalpriest

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    the one to come is the holy spirit.. that's what christians teach you.. but here is an interesting thought

    the holy spirit was present when John the Baptist was in the womb...

    so could it be possible that they ment ahmed? or where they referring to the holy spirit being attainable thru the authority of christ?
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  13. Nu'maaN

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    according to pope coup, islam in its entirety is a fallacy.

    there is nothing "right" about our religion, lol.

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  14. lyricalpriest

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    if it was such a fallacy then why does god bless Ishmael and his nation?

    why wouldn't he have beseeched them and warned us of them and direct us to convert them if that was his intentions.. the infallable word of god doesn't tell us to have this view of them .. so where did we adopt it from? pagan kings? perverters of the message u suspect.
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  15. Nu'maaN

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    waits for coup.

    answer your fellow brethren, coup.

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