here's what bothers me about the Wii, Nintendo, and their fans...

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  1. Wrectify1

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    I think Nintendo is seriously played out to be honest. Yea, the nintendo Wii is cute for kids and the new controller may seem "innovative now"...but for adults...it is just plain stupid. Whoever said that this thing is a modified gamecube is absolutely right. Even the games..I mean..they are geared toward a younger age group. Mario was fun for the NES..but it just got progressively dumb. I'm sorry..I don't have an interest in playing a 3-D Mario game. X-box 360 and PS2 are essentially the same....the games..yea... they are identical graphically..for the most part. The only thing that makes 360 somewhat marketable is it's online capabilities..other than that..360 is a waste of 400 dollars..which isn't cheap at all to me. I have been curious lately....wondering as to what people are buying in terms of consoles for xmas. I hung out in several electronic departments and most people are buying the Nintendo Wii for their kids....people are buying tons of Nintendo Ds handhelds......and tons of slim line PS2's. All the PS3's are gone until Feb. and noone is really showing an interest in Xbox 360. I played Madden NFL 2007 on 360 last week and I compared it to NFL 2K5..and older football game that I own and love for the playstation 2.......No comparison in terms of graphics. I favored the PS2 in terms of graphics. Call of duty looks slightly better on 360..but not that much to be completely honest. Concerning PS3...the price is ridiculous and I do agree that the Blu-Ray was a bit unneccessary. But, if you have the money to buy a PS3...you arn't getting totally ripped off...considering the cheapest Blu-Ray player that I have seen was abt 1,000 dollars. But, to get a next gen system and a 1,000 dollar blue ray player for 600 bucks..that isn't too bad if you've got that kind of money to burn. Personally...when Metal Gear Solid 3 hits the shelves...that's when Xbox is going to start dying out. PS3 is still young now and still quite pricey...but I believe the quality of the games will determine the winner of this new console war. Nintendo has the kid's market on lock. Noone should even compare the Wii to the PS3 or the 360 because it is in a league of it's own. It's target audience is completely different. But, for older gamers like me...we are watching the 360 vs. Ps2/Ps3 battle. So far, in my opinion...Ps2 is still knifing 360 in the back until the Ps3 grabs a solid fanbase...and I seriously think it is Sony's plan. Yes, Xbox has a golden opportunity to pick up some holiday sales....BUT...once the next wave of PS3's hit the market....the demand will be so high..ppl will have saved up so much money...that those things will sell like hot chocolate in Lambough field. Ps2>Xbox360 with Ps3 sitting on the sidelines like Jay Cutler waiting to replace the worn out Jake Plummer aka Ps2. I'm not a PS fanboy but I am just calling it as I see it. Ps3 will take over in the long run. Nintendo Wii will be popular for the kids like Gamecube..it will linger...that's about it.
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  2. junio sixnine

    junio sixnine hasta la victoria siempre

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    more adults have wii than little kids. when i was in line i didnt see one kid, it was all college kids and teenagers and adults.
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    come on. the possibilities of the Wii-mote are not endless. you make a game like MGS or Gears for the Wii without dumbing it down to use it with the Wii-mote.

    Everything about the 360 and PS3 is next-gen. it's not just better graphics. take a game like Dead Rising for example. a game like that with all those zombies on screen at once without slowdown is not possible on the Wii. say what you want about HD but it's here to stay and the Wii barely supports it.

    like i said, i like what Nintendo is trying to do. but i wish they didn't just basically repack the Gamecube.
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    wow man..

    your opinions once again...are completely fucking bullshit....lol


    im fucking crying at this

    youve got to be kidding me....

    the ps3 right now is being bashed left and right for being INFERIOR to the 360 graphicwise so far........but you have the nerve to say that the 360 is graphically equal to a ps2???

    wtf?!?!?!

    and then you mention MADDEN 07 on the 360 looking like the ps2 version......YET THE PS3 VERSION OF MADDEN IS INFERIOR TO THE 360 VERSION GRAPHICALLY DUE TO TEXTURE LIMITATIONS AND IT HAD MORE DEV TIME!!!.....

    YO WTF ARE YOU SMOKING?!?!?!

    seriously.....

    have you even heard of gears of war?? have you seen ghost recon?? have you seen rainbow six vegas???

    do yourself a favor and never voice your opinion in this forum again...cause everytime you do you look like a fucking blind fanboy
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  5. Complete Chaos

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    Yup, you can only do so much with a new form of controller. I know this because the system has been out for a full month and I can see the future. Same thing was said about the DS, and it's the best handheld system out. Sure PSP has better hardware, but the DS is better in every other aspect like gameplay and games for it.

    I guess since you don't have 300 buttons on a controller it's limiting.

    In all reality, Sony and MS should be sucking Nintendo's analog of a dick. Nintendo created the analog, then sony copies, Nintendo created the rumble then sony copies. Nintendo created the Motion, then sony copies with this cheap ass "tilt" shit.

    And saying that MGS is goin to cause the 360 to die out is rediculous. Wait, ONE game can make all the other systems stagnant. Silly fanboys.
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  6. Wrectify1

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    I can understand how a person named "drugs" would say something like this. Did I not just say that I am not a fanboy of any system. This forum is crazy...anytime someone likes something other than XBox 360...you get tons of people like yourself jumping down your throat like flies on rotton meat calling you a fanboy..even when you are stating the OBVIOUS. What I have said is not based on opinion...I even made an attempt to see what other people like and I am finding that(outside of this Xbox fanboy forum) most people feel the same way that I do. Liquid, please don't speak anymore....I've done my research on PS3 and the games that I have seen look CRISP visually. Drugs, nintendo built it's base around the Super Mario Bros. series...so what the hell are you really talking about? The only person saying that the PS3 is inferior graphically to the Xbox is YOU and the rest of your Xbox fanboyish clan. I have research many technology sites that have compared PS3/PS2 to Xbox 360 and the concensus is that PS3 is 2 to 3 times more powerful as a machine.....the graphics are smoother.......and when you compare the PS2 to the Xbox 360....it's basically the same. Madden sucks all around..the graphics were never that great to me. Liquid, if you had any pulse of literacy...you would have read that I compared Madden 07 on Xbox 360 to NFL 2k5 on PS2 and the graphics for that game on PS2 are killing Xbox. Dude, I played Madden 07 on 360 at best buy...the shit was complete garbage and the graphics look like something that should be on PSP or something. Not to down PSP..I own one..it's great...but for your stinking Xbox...that's fucking ridiculous. All that you can mention is Gears of War and that stupid ass zombie game Dead Rising...big fucking deal. Drugs.....The MGS series was the highlight of the playstation era really.......it propelled system sales just like Mario sold Nintendo systems...so what the hell are you speaking dude? I guarentee that one of you idiots will mention something retarded like how Xbox live shits on everything that is playstation....same revolving argument. Wait until Februrary...
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  7. Gorilla Nasty

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    Dude, is your fucking enter key broken???


    Anyway, I'm of the beleif that graphics don't make games. Talk to me 4-5 years ago, and I'd be all over the PS3. But for right now, I don't feel some graphics will justify an extra $250. Especially considering it's a fucking "arms race" of systems, and the next best thing'll be out in like 2 years, followed by the next best thing in 2 years.

    And it is funny that Platstation follows Nintendo around like that. Too bad they couldn't do the same and go get the same engine that they used in wrestling games on 64.
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    I don't think graphics make the game either..but..they help. Graphics add the "wow" to a game. When the graphics are nice....fluid and colorful..sometimes you have to sit back and admire that alone. Remember when NFL 2k first came out for the dreamcast? Do you remember how real that stuff looked? The game was fun too....that's why I bought NFL 2k5 for the PS2..I love that game. Gameplay, graphics..etc.....it just adds to the wow factor. The PS3 "wows" me....but I can't give a gameplay analysis yet because I have yet to get my hands on one.

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  9. Gorilla Nasty

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    Waht really turned me off was when I saw that Madden had the same graphics as on 360. Cause thats mostly what I play. I think the new Maddens graphics blow hard. They spent too much time improving stupid shit like the blades of grass, and excessive shading on the uniforms.
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  10. junio sixnine

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    you're kidding, right? the xbox 1 itself was much more powerful than the ps2. if you compare the 360 with ps2, you are on crack.
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    again...your a fucking idiot....

    because your whole base on the 360 looking like shit...is on madden 07....

    saying that nfl 2k5 looks better....i have nfl 2k5 for xbox....which looks better then the ps2 version.....and it doesnt look better then madden 07...i dont even like madden...i think its a garbage game....

    but the problem here ...is that your saying the 360 is shitty cause of the way madden 07 looks....
    YET YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO SAY THE PS3 IS MORE POWERFUL......MEANWHILE THE PS3 VERSION OF MADDEN 07 IS INFERIOR TO THE 360 VERSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    your actually trying to argue that the ps3 is 3 times more powerful then the 360....

    YOU ARE WRONG!!!

    that was the sony hype machine at work...you havent read shit that says otherwise...because the most respected and reliable resource released 2 weeks ago states that the 360 is actually more powerful from a gaming perspective...

    ive already explained this to you in another thread...but you are the most uninformed bastard i think i have ever come across who sware they know wtf they are talking about....

    the ps3 is only more powerful when it comes to dealing with bit rate streaming.....things like static video and audio....not when it comes to rendering and actual games.....
    the ps3 is better suited as a HD media server then a game machine...but your too much of an idiot to read past...."the ps3 is powerful"....

    it isnt EFFICIENT in the slightest bit....it is underpowered where it matters...in Artifical intelligence it lacks because of no branch prediction on the core.....its underpowered in texture rendering because there is less video memory available to it.....and it runs at a cost of power to do anti aliasing which the 360 does with no performance hitch because of the extra 10mb of ram specifically designed just for AA on the side of the 512mb of ram which it can split towards video or cpu use in any way it is programmed to do....while the ps3 is stuck with 256 for video and 256 for the core.....
    the video card in the ps3 is based on older geforce 7900 video cards which are already outdated....
    the video card in the 360 is based on ati's FUTURE direct x 10 cards which arent even out yet.....
    the 360 is a synchronized dual thread system with 3 cores a piece running 6 threads....
    the ps3 is a 1 core system with 6 spe's dedicated to gaming...1 is cancelled out for redundancy and the last one is used only for OS....
    the Spe's arent synchronized...they have to wait for each other in line...so they cannot run in parallel like the 360....they must go 1 by 1 behind the other....
    the ps3 and 360 were supposed to be released around the same time frame....during the delay on the ps3 the cell processor and memory speed were downgraded from the original spec sheet......the cache has been made smaller and is inferior to the 360's full 1mb cache to the ps3's 512 which is shared by the 7spe's and core...


    and to top it off...you keep saying the ps3 WOW's you....

    YET THE WHOLE INTERNET AND GAMING WORLD SAYS THAT THE PS3 HAS NO ANSWER TO THE 360 RIGHT NOW BESIDES RESISTANCE FALL OF MAN...AND THAT GAME CANT STAND UP TO GEARS OF WAR FOR 360....SO HOW IS IT THAT AN INFERIOR GAME HAS WOW'D YOU GRAPHICALLY...YET THE BEST LOOKING GAME OF ALL TIME IS COMPLETELY IGNORED BY YOU???? EVEN IF YOU DONT LIKE THE 360 ...SAYING THAT THE PS3 HAS BETTER GRAPHICS RIGHT NOW IS A FLAT OUT LIE!!! BECAUSE NO ONE CAN SAY WITH A STRAIGHT FACE THAT ANYTHING LOOKS BETTER THEN GEARS OF WAR....






    and please...stop fucking talkign about madden being garbage and actually trying to use that against the 360....lol...you keep saying that 2k5 on ps2 is better then madden 07...we all know that...thats why i have 2k5 on XBOX and i havent bought a football game since...your logic is fucking stupid....because madden 07 is on ps3...and its WORSE on ps3...so i guess that means that the ps3 is worse then the ps2...because madden 07 on ps3 is GRAPHICALLY INFERIOR TO THE 360 VERSION......



    im done...get out the thread
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  12. LiQuiD6

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    :) get to responding so you can make yourself look stupid again....

    everytime you post you make a fool of yourself....lol
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    http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/buyingguides/Playstation3vsXbox360.php

    Liquid...since you have very poor reading comprehension.....and you need practice...

    I pulled out a quote from this website which compares PS3 to Xbox.

    "The computational power of the system itself sports the equivalent of 2 teraflops, meaning that entirely new graphical expressions that have never been seen before will become possible. In games, not only will movement of characters and objects be far more refined and realistic, but landscapes and virtual worlds can also be rendered in real-time, thereby elevating the freedom of graphics expression to levels not experienced in the past. Gamers will literally be able to dive into the realistic world seen in large screen movies and experience the excitement in real-time"- Comments on PS3


    Also, dumbass...read this report by a "gaming expert"...

    http://www.macworld.com/news/2005/05/17/xbocps3/index.php


    Now I will sit and wait for you to make another comment that is characteristic of an ignoramus such as urself. Alot of the extra "computing" features such as memory are used to support your Xbox live....they don't do shit for graphical output. Yet im the idiot?..read and learn asshole.
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  14. LiQuiD6

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    oh my god...you cant be fucking serious.....


    you pulled out .....a report from 2005....when the only info based on the ps3 was from sony's diagrams....LOL!!!!!!...2 teraflops...wow...lol

    woo....man you are TOO fucking gullible........i see now that everything you say...is based on the early hype machine rolled out by sony.....you havent even read into any REAL detailed reports.....not even anything made after having both systems in hand ....

    im fucking dying at that macworld report....they say that ghost recon advanced warfighter looked weak...meanwhile...at release...that game was the BEST LOOKING GAME on ANY SYSTEM.....and i love how they compare it to killzone....WHICH HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE FAKE !!!!!!!

    YOU SERIOUSLY HAVE TO WORK FOR SONY

    its already been proven that the real world performance of the ps3 is no where near what sony and ibm showed on thier "charts"....the fact of the matter is they made tests under conditions that would give them the best possible result so that they could boast about useless numbers like teraflops...but you wouldnt know anything about that...because like all other things...you are uninformed.... (and about 2 years behind with your resources)....

    its hilarious how i break down to you all the reasons as to why the ps3 isnt as powerful as you think it is....ram...videocard...core spe breakdown....cache.....
    yet all you can come back with...the ps3 is 2 teraflops cause sony said so!!! lol...which means NOTHING


    man this is fuking hilarious.....this link you posted

    "For raw processing power, the specs seem to favor the Playstation 3. This was not helped by the fact that Xbox has not shown much footage of its upcoming games while Sony practically barraged E3 attendees with about 2 hours of demos, real-time game engine samples and technology showcases. "

    that is hilarious...simply because sony was bashed by game journalists around the world for showing too much cgi and scripted events and not enough real time game footage.....its obvious that this shit was written by someone who doesnt know much about gaming.....and its hilarious that they base the idea of which is more powerful off a spec sheet.....which is just IDIOTIC....BECAUSE REAL WORLD PERFORMANCE DOESNT TRANSLATE THE SAME WAY...AND THIS IS WHY THE PS3 ISNT AS POWERFUL AS THOSE FOOLS DID AT THAT TIME...(WHICH IM POSITIVE THEY DONT AGREE WITH THAT ARTICLE ANYMORE)....AND YOU LIKE AN IDIOT STILL BELIEVE IT TODAY EVEN THOUGH ANYONE WITH A BRAIN WHO DOES ANY KIND OF RESEARCH INTO IT KNOWS THAT THIS IS FALSE....


    http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/?spage=1


    make sure YOU READ IT.....
    That has been considered the most accurate depiction of the 2 consoles so far.......dont even bother responding after you read it


    here is a bit from it....

    ^ see that part in bold...i coulda swore i told you that same thing about....oh....2 months ago?


    and regarding the "extra's for xbox live".....lol...i dont even need to quote where it goes into detail that the microsoft os on the 360 takes up less processing power and is ALOT more efficient then the ps3 OS system..i told you this about a month ago as well...microsoft is a better software company...they will be better at making thier hardware more efficient through software..wow man...STOP DIGGING YOURSELF A HOLE

    seriously..read the article...and dont respond....
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    Madden this, Madden that... who said shit about Madden?

    Let me summarize all of your posts in this threads:

    PS3 graphics makes me have jizz crusted pants because I'm a playstation fanboy. I just recently found out how to use the enter key. The only game I'm going to use in this arguement is Madden stacking up to MGS, because they're different genres it'll make a lot of sense. I base my facts to form my opinions from articles wrote a year ago. Let's say that Nintendo makes kiddie games when 85% of the kiddie games are multi-platform games.

    There that sounds about right.

    Oh yeah... MGS was not the "highlight" of Playstation there was a game called, Hmm "Final Fantasy." Same reason people will buy ps3 at a later date, and Sony knows this. Sony doesn't even have it's own mascot, they rely on developers to crank out the hits, same with MS.



    Might wanna read some more of your year old articles.

    You should know that Nintendo is more about Zelda than Mario now. Wait, you're old articles are still all about Mario. Which one was a launch title? Ask yourself that, and change your whole arguement again.

    THIS TIME DON'T MENTION MADDEN. Simply because Madden is always multiplatform, it should never be used as comparison. I mean how much fucking different can football be? Oooh I can see sweat on my players, lemme go jack off about it.
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    whats hilarious is that he talks about the 360 being shitty cause madden looks like crap....meanwhile......the ps3 version of madden is out.....and the 360 version is considered the better looking game.......

    so does that mean that the PS2 > PS3? using his logic???
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    I'm not going to take any other comments made by either of you dumbasses seriously anymore. When "Drugs" said that MGS wasn't a staple of the PS era...I had to quit reading. Neither of you really know what you are speaking of and I'm always called a fanboy for my views on things. Games make or break a system and anybody that has played long enough knows that. 360 has a huge time advantage over the PS3 and I still have yet to find a game that will make me buy one. I played gears of war....I am so not impressed. It looks like Call of Duty: "Doom Style". How is that fun or creative. But, to keep you assholes from saying that I am a biased fanboy..I am also not impressed with Resistance Fall of Man....it's basically another Gears of War but it's leaning more toward the Doom 3D/Call of Duty 3 style. But, what you chumps don't realize is that the PS3 has only been out since November and the gaming lineup for the thing hasn't solidified...aka....developers will be trying to create games that stretch the PS3's limits. I don't care what you clowns say....PS3 is a more powerful machine....and even when a game only exploits half of it's ability....it STILL wipes it's ass with Xbox. 360 barely competes with the new PS2 games. I am waiting for MGS4, Devil May cry 4 and some other games to come out...then a true comparison can be made. But like I said...360 has been out for over a year and I am still searching for a reason to want to play the thing for more than 5 minutes.

    Drugs...dumbass..obviously you haven't played your share of sports games to know what is fun or not...so...I honestly have nothing left to say to you.

    Liquid....your system specs are proving nothing....in fact...you know what...everyone typing on this forum owns an Xbox 360...my home PC=Xbox 360. Thats all the shit is good for really at this point. I'm not hating...but the system is not living up to it's potential......it's like Einstien settling to work at Mcdonald's. I've played games for PSP that are funner than 360...it's not all abt graphics....BUT....360 is barely hanging in there with slimline PS2s..and you can go ask the retailers about that!
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    You are obviously a playstation fanboy and I've come to that conclusion from reading just one of your posts. ^
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    hilarious....

    your obviously one of those sony marketing people that hit up message boards and hype thier own products........lol.....

    seriously....

    and yea the ps2 is selling like hot cakes.....doesnt change a damn thing about the 360 or the ps3.....has nothing to do with either machine.....

    the fact is....you based your whole arguement on the ps3 being more powerful....yet when i prove to you that it isnt what you think it is...you admit to not changing your opinion no matter what facts i throw at you.....and then on top of it....you admit that the ps3 has no good looking games right now....so you have nothing to backup your arguements....everything you say is based on faith....pure...blind faith....

    you....are a fanboy....or you work for sony.....either way.....your pathetic

    my problem isnt even the ps3.....ill prolly eventually get one....the problem is you claiming it to be something its not.....it does not wipe the floor with the 360...and it is not exponentially more powerful........this will be xbox / ps2 all over again as far as power....sony hypes in the beginning...and the truth comes out once again that they bullshitted everyone....its already happening......its already HAPPENED.......

    yes metal gear 4 looks good......devil may cry looks ok....

    gears of war looks better then ANYTHING OUT.....yet you say it looks like call of duty ..lol...that shit is rediculous...the game is beyond anything released...period.....ever.....not even resistance fall of man can match it....

    its not even worth argueing with you cause you dont argue....you just make shit up
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    Liquid...I'm a fanboy....but you arn't? I find that really funny. WWIII, this is an XBox fanboy site and I am almost positive that you're one of them. I've given every game system a change....I've tried them all. I don't show any bias..I just speak what I see.

    Liquid...If you like gears of war....great....you're entitled to your own opinion and views..I am entitled to mine. Am I a fanboy because I like my playstation and the games that I own? NO...that makes me a "satisfied gamer". Sony has a history around itself by building customer satisfaction. That is with any type of product on the market..if you build good customer satisfaction...if you make quality products..then people will buy your product. Yes, I said that there aren't any attractive games out for the PS3 yet...umm...the system hasn't even been out for a month yet. The bigger titles have no been released yet. Noone can even get their hands on a PS3 until Feb...or unless you play it in a display case at Best Buy or something. When I say that I havent seen an impressive games...that means that I haven't seen any games come out that I'd be interested in playing for the system. Same with 360.....none of the gamess look attractive to me....and the ones that do look attractive...I can buy for PS2....so why should anybody with a PS2 buy a 360? For Gears of War?? For Dead Rising?? What?? 360 doesn't have a decent exclusive game in it's arsenal to make a consumer like me want to buy one. Yes, Xbox live may sound attractive.....BUT....Xbox live is only as good as it's game arsenal. PS3 will only be good as it's game arsenal.

    But like you all said...I'm a fanboy because I'm not on the 360 bandwagon.
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