john had tons of basic lines as well as shit people have said before pete didnt and was more clever and complex thats why i thought he won can def see why others dug john more esp if they hadn't heard the other lines. id rather have ph and nocan judging than most others even if their final opinions disagree with mine. as i said, great battle by both. im glad as a fan i can watch 2 people insult each other so cleverly for over 4 minutes each. hella good entertrainment for cheap.