Discussion in 'IntroSpectrum' started by Virgo, Feb 13, 2007.
Perhaps I'm wrong.
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In case King Menace misses this . . .
I recently read something by Faucault that talks exactly about this.
Basically, he says that modern education uses micro-incentives/disensentives to endoctrinate people.
He uses a comparison of what things were like in the olden days where Kings would let their subjects live as they wanted other then for specific commands, which would be punishable by huge punishment, like death. Today, we have the opposite, where people are allowed to die, but their life is entirely controlled/under constant control by those who control things. Education/prisons (for reform rather then punishment, mental institutions are all part of htis)
A second feature of the modern world he says is that those who control things is not some elite group/illuminate. In the past the controller was sort of like the sun, everyone can see the Sun but the Sun cannot see anyone. i.e. the masses are invisible, the ruler is visible. In the modern world, by contrast, the rulers are invisible and the masses are the ones who are constantly being surveilled. I think he called it the "spotlight" model. Think of interrogation of a person with a bright light in your face, you cant see it but they can see you. On any one person there are multiple spotlights.
If i was asked who are "the controllers" from Faucault's point of view i would say "legal persons" and state bodies. i.e. persons established for common aims, whether it be to make a profit, support this or that cause, etc. They are the ones doing hte conditioning, and of course a legal person is just a mask for all those who are apart of the legal persons.
perhaps ur wrong???
Discipline and Punish?
LOL@ X liking my vocabular words.
foucault is cool
I was asking if Girth was referring to Foucalt's book "Discipline & Punish"
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