A response from drews other thread of girl advice. I have a real issue with horrible advice being given when it comes to picking up girls, then guys go out try hard and get no real improvements, as i was there few years ago. I used to give and follow the same advice of "just to this gym/club club on this day all the single easy chicks are there" 3-4 years ago. I then changed my way of looking at it and well i'm not going to even list how many or who i've been with because no one would believe me, but most importantly it made me get the girl i wanted. i never settle anymore. Okay so here... Most guys always think, "where" is the best place to get easy because that's the best place to be! I thought this myself a while ago as well. THE WHERE: When you focus on the "where" you really aren't choosing the girl you want, at the easy places you're settling for whatever easy/drunk/low self esteem/rebound/etc girl majority of the time. You aren't using any skill or developing any new skill doing this. So your not improving your game at all, its plateaued at this point. Going to an "easy" place and flirting with 30 girls will usually always end up positive for you. if you're all about having sex and sex only with the so-so's this is perfect, go right ahead and do this. But if you want the ridiculous hot girls , also said as "girls who dont party much", and hard to gets - focusing on the "where" is the last thing you want to do. THE HOW: Knowing "where" to meet girls has nothing to do with "how" to meet girls, when you focus on the "how" you DO pick up girls at college, work, grocery store, etc. aka where ever the FUCK you want. The "how" actually IMPROVES your game unlike the "where". The "how" explains exactly why hot girls are attracted to guys, and its fairly easy to portray ALL the those characteristics without being really good looking or rich. I live in south beach and see 200K+ cars every block from people who live here. So take my word for it and start focusing on the "how". Moral of story: do you want to choose the girl you want or just settle for whatever you can get? ##### IF WHAT YOUR DOING ISN'T WORKING TRY THIS OUT ###### HERE IS A TEST I SUGGEST YOU DO FOR MORE EXPERIENCE For a month stop going out to the bar/clubs with guys - start making friends with girls for the next month and tell them about a really cool bar, as in girls drink free, beer pong and you will whoop her ass, most amazing pizza ever they have, etc.. make sure you describe a good attribute to them not just "wanna go out to xyz bar" very boring and you give her a choice, she really shouldnt have a choice because it sounds so awesome. To get the friends: start up conversation anywhere you see any girl hot or not, get her facebook/phone. build rapport then invite as a friend to bar, tell her to come with her friends. its very low pressure and you gotta hype the bar up.(theres a TON more on befriending but this post is already long) Usually starting out you can get 6 girls(they always bring friends why wont come alone) and you go with a guy friend. So take a step back and realize that: 1. you are at a bar with 6 girls 2. the girls don't know each other but you are friends with them all, shows you're cool/down to earth, not looking to fuck only, very positive they will hang with you again. 3. the other girls in a bar look at TWO things. they look at girls outfits and guys with girls. You will be the center of attention at that bar by the girls that didnt come to meet you. You instantly become interesting to many other girls there. At this point your confidence is THROUGH THE ROOF. Starting a simple conversation with other girls in the bar once they have seen your status will be very good, invite them over to the overall group, and have some fun. Stop flirting with them all until your social skills are up to par WITH groups of girls, because its very different then with groups of guys. I WILL STATE THIS AGAIN: its an experience test its not a 'oh lemme make 6 friends to get a girl to like me'. You start to figure out what girls like and don't like. Start to understand why girls in a bar aren't giving you attitude or blowing you off as they normally do sometimes, start to build up social intelligence with women that you didnt have before, and the list goes on and on.. Moral of the test is for you to visually see the power of value a guy can have, in this case we used girls around us as the value NOT LOOKS OR MONEY. Saw how it drastically changed the situation to your advantage.