Battle Video DON'T FLOP - Rap Battle - Caustic Vs Jefferson Price

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  1. Midemceeon

    Midemceeon New Member

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    thats arsonal
    who was fightklub and gt before url
    he does better in those formats anyways

    and the fan base comment doesnt mean much thats not indicative of how your gonna perform in that moment
    k shine lost to passwurds
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  2. King John

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    No he didn't tbh.
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  3. Midemceeon

    Midemceeon New Member

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    yeah he did

    i rather see more style clashes then tayroc vs dna
    which due to the constriction of the
    url is guaranteed to happen
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  4. wizworld

    wizworld How can you be mad at me?

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    Canada isn't overseas but I was including them when I said "unless the battle is overseas". Anyway sorry to break this to you but the URL isn't running out of match-ups. People could say that before the PG era, but now? To make that claim you're either dumb or very poor at math. If you are a big name and you want to be considered among the best of the best eventually you will try to make your way over to the URL. Pat Stay and The Saurus are probably the only big name active battlers that might not ever bother trying to get on the URL stage. Pat doesn't need to because he's a big enough draw (combined with his opponents desire to battle in KOTD/Canada) to chill in Canada and wait for a big match-up. The Saurus because
    1. He has little to prove at this point
    2. He cleans up in all these other leagues, and rightfully so
    3. Trying to adapt wouldn't play to his strengths (and no it's not a weakness that he won't adapt his style).

    Again it's lack of interest. They don't get much out of battling people who have no chance of making the URL stage besides money. State-side it isn't a different market. Most people who prefer the styles of the battlers in those other leagues watch URL too. Look at the view numbers, look at who is voting in the public polls for the URL battles... Home crowd bias, excess of jokes and played out "personals" ruin most of those match-ups.
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  5. Met-A-Forikal

    Met-A-Forikal Time, cunt!

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    "Sorry, kiddo." You knew it was going to be brutal when Caustic uttered those words. "Rap Battles Ruined My Life." Jefferson Price wants to buy this shirt now.
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  6. Midemceeon

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    simple rebuttal

    most the people coming out of the pgs
    arent very good


    easy to just face the same style
    lack of interest = im not sure how to approach this matchup

    the fact that we got dna vs chilla jones
    in the url as a surprise matchup
    is disgraceful
    and next time elaborate
    i count kotd as us and canada

    i see alot of people on youtube who only watch url or kotd
    look at the comments
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  7. King John

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    The large majority of PG battlers would be top tier in KOTD, and lack of interest means, no reason to battle this person. What reason would a top tier URL battler have to battle outside of URL besides being paid?
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  8. Midemceeon

    Midemceeon New Member

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    why do you battle anyone these days
    to get paid

    that point you and wiz keep making is a moot point
    if calicoe doesnt gain more fans by battling real deal (which he said he was gonna do)

    he doesnt expand his fan base by battling tsu surf


    and now we have arrived at dna vs chilla jones being a surpirse big battle

    i rest my case


    it would be a challenge to battle someone with a different style

    as most of the pg battlers suck
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  9. King John

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    Nobody said he'd gain more fans battling Surf, but that battle would get a lot more views and a win over Surf would look a lot better on his resume than a win over a KOTD/GT battler.
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  10. Midemceeon

    Midemceeon New Member

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    to whom
    aside form a major fuckup theres only been a few decisive victories in url, theres no extra leverage, the people who were gonna watch that are the people that were gonna watch whatever calicoe or surf put out anyways.

    why not challenge yourself
    probably because most of them arent creative enough
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  11. King John

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    A win or good showing where they both wild out against a guy the caliber of Surf is a much bigger accomplishment than a win over a KOTD/GT battler, and that large majority of battle rap fans would agree with that. They are challenging themselves by going up against the best battlers, it just so happens that the best battlers are all in URL. You've never answered what does a big name URL battler have to gain from battling a KOTD/GT battler?

    You really think if a guy like Calicoe goes to KOTD and beats :chabroni: his stock will go up?
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  12. FeedMeMore

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    Yes

    Here's the thing after you battled a few times in URL your stock doesn't really rise Your stock drops if you get killed but two URL rappers doing well agaisnt each other doesn't do much. Coming to KOTD what it will do is get you a new fan base. There are those in KOTD that don't watch URL who look at it as a ignorant street league. So going to battle in KOTD/GT/DF gets you exposure to that market. You guys act like ALL battle fans are also URL fans which is not the case.
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  13. wizworld

    wizworld How can you be mad at me?

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    The whole idea that URL guys battling URL guys doesn't do much for them popularity wise is biased and false. Look at match-ups like Cortez v. Hitman Holla/Math v. Verb/Surf v. Big T/Yung Ill v. T-Rex. It's readily apparent that these guys have totally different fanbases, and both guys doing well in these battles gave both battlers a boost. People who aren't fond of URL generally like to imagine that URL fans are monolithic and frankly a lot of that sentiment is dude to underlying prejudices. Really it makes more sense to think of the URL as the NBA. If you are an NCAA diehard then NBA games may all look the same to you, but it's different fanbases, different styles of play, etc...

    I do think that there may be some benefit to a guy like Calicoe going out to Canada and battling someone with Charron's popularity. The problem is that the match-up doesn't make sense. That's the biggest problem with big name guys coming to KOTD. Even Diz has admitted that he wasn't motivated to battle Porich, and he isn't really motivated to battle Arcane. These aren't exciting match-ups for him. So until someone new breaks out of the pack (or Pat gets bodied) everyone will keep lining up to battle Pat Stay.

    And again I don't think GT (and KOTD FC for that matter) can legitimately claim to be "another market" at this point. KOTD proper? Yes that's another market. Don't Flop? Another market. Queen of the Ring? Another market. If Jumpoff were to come back? Yes that's a freestyle battle league, it's another market. But any stateside male dominated written league is essentially = a portion of the URL audience plus a few loyal diehards. For many of the URL guys (especially those with no prior connection to GT) the volume of diehard fans that these smaller stateside leagues have isn't enough to matter if the check isn't right.
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  14. Midemceeon

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    you would use charon lol
    that that particular case no

    but head ice went to canada and had one of the best battles of the year in facing pat
    notoriety and it can look good on your resume because
    its a new style

    it doesnt look bad
    unless you lose
    which people in the url are scared of doing
    if we are talking about top battlers the url only has 4 that are really top
    the rest are spread out in other leagues



    and the notion that kotd fc isnt a different market but tsu surf and calicoe have a vastly different fanbase is utterly ridiculous


    you cant have it both ways

    i think aside from a few diehard fans the same people that watch tsu surf watch calicoe
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  15. King John

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    I would say that the amount of battle fans who don't watch URL is minimal, and the ones that don't wouldn't suddenly become fans just because they battled in KOTD, if anything beating one of their favorite battlers would make them dislike that battler more.
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  16. King John

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    Never said Surf and Calicoe have different fanbases, and sure Head Ice had a decent battle in KOTD but it's not like that raised his stock any, Head Ice isn't suddenly in huge demand to battle big names because he had a good battle with Pat Stay, so what did he really gain besides money?
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  17. Midemceeon

    Midemceeon New Member

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    that last part was more directed at the general thread

    and as far as head ice

    hes wanted back in kotd

    and his demeanor isnt conducive to really caring about "big names"
    battling cortez didnt raise his stock
    nether swave or tech 9

    thats more geared toward the fact that he doesnt care about whos big
    he just battles who he battles

    battling pat does more for him then battling jj or battling calicoe or b magic who he has no interest in battling anyways
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  18. King John

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    No it doesn't tbh.
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  19. Midemceeon

    Midemceeon New Member

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    why not
    introduced him to a fan base in canada
    travel

    battling jj or calicoe does what
    he has no interest
    in the url where people knew him anyways

    same people in a huger venue that isnt conductive to his style
    eh

    battle against pat shows versatility
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  20. King John

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    The fan base in Canada is already aware of who Head Ice is, he doesn't have to battle their, him battling John John or Calicoe would bring in a lot more views and if he won would set him up for bigger match ups in the future.
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