donovan mcnabb supports mike vick

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  1. double ML

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    lmao@stephon marbury stickin' up for mike vick AFTER he confessed to the crime[funny]
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  2. Konscious

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    You're the idiot... and a hypocrite, too. I bet you're a meat-eater and consider hunting to be a valid sport, but those are just guesses... however, you really prove your hypocrisy by stating "population control is a good thing," but killing a dog isn't???

    Dude makes valid points... it is unreasonable for "animal cruelty" to have a punishment of 5 years or more federal time, when a man can brutally rape a 12-year-old girl and get 2 years (happened in Ohio) or when a guy can do a year for manslaughter, all because he hit an innocent bystander instead of the guy he was really aiming at (happened in SC)... it's all hypocritical when this nation participates in "animal cruelty" everyday.

    How is Vick an evil criminal and Dick Cheney is not? Why is a dog's life more valuable than a deer's or a quail's, duck's, rabbit's, grizzly bear's, etc.? Why do all these meat-eaters have bleeding hearts for pitbulls, but none for the chickens, cows, and pigs that they eat?

    Explain that to me instead of resorting to ad hominem attacks and evading the issue.
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  3. double ML

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    the law says you can hunt those type animals, but that it's illegal to stage dogfights


    duh


    why? who cares?[dunno]


    that's just the way it is
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  4. Konscious

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    ^That's all fine and dandy, but why call it "animal cruelty" when hunting is not?

    People aren't judging him because he "broke the law," they're judging him because he allegedly killed dogs.
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  5. double ML

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    killin' those dogs is against the law


    when you out hunting, the animals have a chance to escape


    weeeeeeeeeeeeeee


    logic wins again
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  6. Offbeat

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    why is a humans life more valueable than a dogs?

    why is a frogs life more valuable then the bacteria in your teeth?

    its a cultural thing, if u dont get it, u wont get it. stop trying to understand.

    its obvious to most people dogs are more valuable than a quail or a deer, if u cant comprehend that FINE, u just dont have the required brain cells to understand cultural norms
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    hunting is shooting an animal for food. dog fighting is sending animals to their death for entertainment.
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    Nobody in the media seems to give a damn what happened to Barbaro and all the horses terminally injured each year due to HORSERACING....a "sport" heavily fueled by gambling. I use sport in quotations because the horses are the only ones involved in any physical activity. You don't see heavy lobbying by PETA against people raising and breeding horses for the sole purpose of horse racing. Then a horse snaps his/her leg in a couple pieces and the animal has to be euthanized. Now, what Mike Vick participated in was sick and disgusting. I do believe that he deserves to pay for what he's done to those poor animals...regardless of how vicious a pit bull is...it is an ANIMAL. But equally..why punish Vick if America glorifies horse racing which is animal cruelty at it's finest. Something that is the cornerstone of casino gambling.

    IMO, the american justice system is screwed up. Celebrities can get away scott free for crimes that a normal blue collar individual would be heavily punished for. Ask yourself....why in the hell did Nicole Ritchie only get 82 MINUTES in jail for driving a car under the influence of illegal drugs.....YET they are trying to throw Mike Tyson in prison for essentially the SAME THING. The justice system is seriously fucked in this country and it pisses me off. Do I want to play the race card? No...but you have NEVER...EVER seen a black athlete or celebrity get away with a crime fully unscathed. Take Martha Stewart...how the hell can you become a convicted felon...go serve X amount of years in prison and then COME BACK to the same damn show that you started???? Answer that shit. Yet they suspend Vick from the NFL indefinately...what is this? some kind of joke? How about O.J. Simpson...yea..he got off...white folks were PISSED yea?...but guess what...the justice system took his Heisman trophy from him....they have tags on his life and his bank account. ANY source of income he gets goes to the Goldman family due to some bullshit wrongful death suit...an entire trial based on tainted fucking evidence from some •••• ass racist white cops. White celebrity women can fucking cry in jail...get sympathy from a judge and get released 2 weeks later. Maybe Micheal Vick should start crying...oops..that won't work..because he is another young black athlete who was stupid enough to allow this fucked up country to make an example out of him. I don't see anyone arresting the rich bastards that ultimately ended Barbaro's life. I lvoe animals but free Micheal Vick..not because I don't think he is innocent or because I don't think he's a huge african american fuck up....but free him for the simple fact that worse things are going on in America and the judicial system is neither equal nor racially blind. That's real talk...if you don't like my words and you think I am some racist, STFU. I love people just as much as I love animals...but injustice pisses me off.
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    the horses dont fight 2 the death dummy

    the losers dont get killed

    their trained to run fast and practice that, other than that, they are treated really good with a stable, personal caretakers, the best medical treatment, etc

    dogfight training includes starvation, abuse, chaining to treadmills, etc.

    can u use your brain or not?
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    Dude, If you don't plan on reading WITH UNDERSTANDING..don't bother responding. I don't give a damn about a stable, personal caretakers..etc. NOTHING can prevent a horse's fucking leg from being broken due to a stress fracture! How hard is that for you to understand? Are you that stupid?

    Horses don't fight to the death? Horses die every year from race related injuries.....broken bones....torn cartilage..cracked hoofs...etc. Horse racing IS abuse. Not to mention...that they have cloned Barbaro..they are using genetic engineering to BREED HORSES FOR RACING. You're an idiot if you think that isn't animal cruelty. Not to mention that they use foriegn performance enhancing chemicals, feeds etc. You are so lost. You're probably some middle class clown who sits in his room all day paying attention to what the media tells you.

    The main idea here is "ANIMAL CRUELTY" dumbass.
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    yeah horses die from racing injuries, football players die from football injuries, soldiers die from war injuries, police die from criminal injuries, wtf. its the line of work.

    reread my post.

    if you cant tell the difference between how racing horses get trained and fighting dogs get trained then whatever. it's no use.
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    Now you're putting together a slew of Red Herring arguments. Noone unwillingly makes someone play football or join a branch of the armed services(baring the military draft). Noone FORCES someone to be a policeman. Do they ask a horse if it wants to spend it's life racing? Your argument is irrelevant.

    Once again....this argument isn't about "TRAINING METHODS"...it's about ANIMAL CRUELTY..stop deviating from the topic and admit that dog fighting is JUST AS CRUEL as horse racing. I don't give a lily fuck what the training methods are......they both involve the ABUSE OF ANIMALS through gambling. Can you see that??
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    it is about training methods. horses are trained and kept in great physical condition to keep them healthy. fighting dogs are trained through abuse to keep them killers.

    one is cruel, the other isnt.
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    what happens to the ones that get injured or the ones that don't win?
    They live happily ever after? probably not
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    because Human is at the top of the totem pole that's why a human life is more valuable. and thats why 5 years is some bullshit when you can kill a person and get less time.
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    the ones that dont win become riding horses and still make cake for the owner

    only injured horses get put down otherwise they're treated well
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  17. double ML

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    hope overrated mcnabb throws many TD's to reggie brown
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  18. Konscious

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    So it's not that dog-fighting is inherently wrong... it's just a cultural thing?... because some societies eat dogs and it's okay?

    Got it.
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    So people in this culture don't hunt for sport and entertainment?

    Don't tell me you're this clueless... or maybe you think you're trying to get over on me? Nice try.
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  20. Konscious

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    No, you want to make it solely about training methods, when it's more faceted than that... horses are abused (whipped with leather and stabbed with spurs) in order to keep them running fast DURING races... and just like fighting dogs, they are put down if they're injured or lose.
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