does anyone care about the bronson arroyo/willy mo pena deal

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  1. DannyC

    DannyC Stay golden, pony boy.

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    cuz i think the reds got raped
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  2. Iceodu921

    Iceodu921 Resident Sports Genius

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    reds needed a quailty starter they got it their isnt much of a market for sluggers.

    Willy mos a good hitter if he get enough abs hed prolly hit low 30 in hrs
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  3. DannyC

    DannyC Stay golden, pony boy.

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    arroyo sucks

    hes not a quality starter, hes a reliable one. u kno what ya gettin


    but quality isnt it.



    4.51 career era

    career .500 record... last year he went somethin like 14-9, but u gotta remember that he gets no K's, walks alot, and he had the biggest scoring team behind him last year, thus the 14 wins (by run support)


    hes horrible, he'll be 8-15 in cincinatti
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  4. Biggedawgg

    Biggedawgg fuck mexico

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    pena is no star either tho


    pretty even deal to me
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  5. wilmer deryou

    wilmer deryou New Member

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    plus arroyo cant get lefties out


    even trade..wily mo will be a starter next year when they let go nixon
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  6. tharealist23

    tharealist23 The Next Chief

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    agreed, it seemed pretty even to me too
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  7. Iceodu921

    Iceodu921 Resident Sports Genius

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    willy mo has alot more upside than arroyo.

    but the fact is a quailty starter (arryo is a quailty starter you know he'll give you innings and post some wins) is harder to find than a 30 hr guy.

    Arroyo's could proably be a decent third starter if he can put it all togegather. Problem with him is he's a fly ball pitcher and that could bring a ton of problems.

    This was a good deal for Boston but i can see why cinnci made this deal.
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  8. Old Soul

    Old Soul Nipple Nibbler

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    Pena in a full-season = more K's than Dunn.
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  9. Nam Dekan

    Nam Dekan i got a tip in my pocket

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    he will have big run support in Cincinnati...they were the top offensive team in the NL.. He is an upgrade for the Reds in the rotation..After Harang and Claussen they got jack shit pretty much..the reds just need a pitcher who can give up under 10 runs

    But this sucks for Pena, he was finally going to get out of platooning but now he will be platooning with Nixon

    but this deal is good for the Reds, Pena is expendable especially with the emergence of Encarnacion and Wise is having a decent spring training..
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  10. Nam Dekan

    Nam Dekan i got a tip in my pocket

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    those two coulda combined to strike out nearly 400 times this season
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  11. pestilence

    pestilence now believes he's hyphy.

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    Wily Mo= Career .248 with a .303 obp... and strikes out tons
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  12. wilmer deryou

    wilmer deryou New Member

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    you realize people can get better especially when your 24 like wily mo pena...dude is so young chill lol..

    you dont think david ortiz and manny rameriz wont help him out? come on
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  13. DannyC

    DannyC Stay golden, pony boy.

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    so true^

    especially with the hispanic flava they got goin on on the red sox.. theyre gonna love this guy.

    and ABS.. he wont be platooning NEXT year... this year will be a year for the organization to get his pitch selection in tact
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  14. Iceodu921

    Iceodu921 Resident Sports Genius

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    ya take a latin slugger and make him selective..

    it'll work...
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  15. Nam Dekan

    Nam Dekan i got a tip in my pocket

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    he will be platooning this year..i dont care about next year...

    point is the Reds got what they needed, a pitcher and as sad as it is..he has the potential to be their ace...i think the reds were more willing to part with Pena then Kearns..i dont think they will really miss Pena though, they traded Guillen before and the offense didn't miss a beat...I think the loss of Casey is the bigger loss
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