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  1. TheBigPayback

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    Heres one alluding to homosexuality i think its talking about sodom specificly
    For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. —Romans 1:26-27

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    All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be enslaved by anything. “Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food”—and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power. Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body. —1 Corinthians 6:9-20

    But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. —Galatians 5:16-21

    They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy to practice every kind of impurity. But that is not the way you learned Christ!—assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus, to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness. —Ephesians 4:19-24

    But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. —Ephesians 5:3-5

    For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God; that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you. For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness. Therefore whoever disregards this, disregards not man but God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you. —1 Thessalonians 4:3-8

    Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. —Hebrews 13:4

    But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” —Revelation 21:8
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  2. TheBigPayback

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    Heres one alluding to homosexuality i think its talking about sodom specificly
    For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. —Romans 1:26-27

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    All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be enslaved by anything. “Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food”—and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power. Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! Or do you not know that he who is joined to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, “The two will become one flesh.” But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body. —1 Corinthians 6:9-20

    But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. —Galatians 5:16-21

    They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy to practice every kind of impurity. But that is not the way you learned Christ!—assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus, to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness. —Ephesians 4:19-24

    But sexual immorality and all impurity or covetousness must not even be named among you, as is proper among saints. Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving. For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. —Ephesians 5:3-5

    For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God; that no one transgress and wrong his brother in this matter, because the Lord is an avenger in all these things, as we told you beforehand and solemnly warned you. For God has not called us for impurity, but in holiness. Therefore whoever disregards this, disregards not man but God, who gives his Holy Spirit to you. —1 Thessalonians 4:3-8

    Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. —Hebrews 13:4

    But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.” —Revelation 21:8
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  3. Jay Bee

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    ok I'll give you that. But doesn't ephesians 5:3-5 say no sex?
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  4. snowy

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    And I'm sure by people like you he was referring to all believers of religions in which case he would be even more in the right.


    And Catholics have far more in common with Christians then any other religion out there. They're two sides of the same coin type of deal.
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  5. TheBigPayback

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    can u elaborate.
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  6. Jay Bee

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    "For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God"
    THE EMPHASIS IS ON IMPURE, WHICH I UNDERSTAND TO MEAN NO SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE

    also: "For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you abstain from sexual immorality; that each one of you know how to control his own body in holiness and honor, not in the passion of lust like the Gentiles who do not know God"

    "But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. Now the works of the flesh are evident: sexual immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. —Galatians 5:16-21"

    THE FIRST ONE SOUNDS LIKE SODOMY BUT THE FIRST JUST SOUND LIKE REFRAINING FROM SEXUAL ACTS WHICH U DONT THINK THE BIBLE GOES AGAINST
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  7. TheBigPayback

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    Its certainly not just sexual acts in general. Its one of the earthly pleasures God ordained for us. Its pleasurable to encourage procreation. Sexual immorality would be like things not nessicarily designed for the body.
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  8. Jay Bee

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    god put weed here too. but people think its wrong to chief. im just following ur bible.

    the quotes specifically mention lust being wrong. no comment?
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    Actually ive had many discussions about weed and the bible. And as far as the bible is conserned the only points that deal with that is "your body is a temple" which eludes to over indulgence not moderation and "keep a sober mind" but that wouldnt nessicarily cancel it out on occassion such as during a celebration. And " follow the rules of your government" which its not really an as illegal thing anymore, at least not here. So i wouldnt say that the bible says its wrong under those circumstances. And those that may tell you that really havent studied the subject.
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    An for the record i dont smoke weed so its not like im saying that to justify it for myself.
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    yes lust such as pornography can corrupt your soul. Its just not good to have that constantly in your thoughtlife, which is what lust is.
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  12. miscreant

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    you lost me

    what are you saying?
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  13. snowy

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    .... Whats not to get.

    People Like Payback. Religious people in general but more so the fundamentalist/extremists. Delusional ideas based on lack of evidence. Believers in Sci Fi books as fact.

    Those type of people do outnumber atheists and they hold back our species.
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    Dont be rediculous. If u could disprove it we wouldbt be arguing now would we. So until then or vise versa my beliefs are just as if not more relevent than yours. Confirm a better answer or shut up smh holding back our species smh
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  15. miscreant

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    wait

    people who believe in God hold back our species?

    delusional ideas based on lack of evidence

    atheists are better people than theists?

    ok
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  16. TheBigPayback

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    Pretty dumb statement i must say
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  17. Jay Bee

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    BP what do you consider evidence of god not existing???im very very curious bcuz i never here u mention any counter evidence
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    Crusades, stem cell research, intolerence towards homosexuality, intolerence to other religions, all the wars in Greece other who's god's cooler, people trying to use prayer to stop things like the black death instead of medicine, science being ignored and discarded during the dark ages (The whole "oh you belive in germs? I believe in god doe so you gon die nao" thing they had going on), witch hunts, religious wars, people refusing to discuss things like evolution and DNA because there religion disagrees with it, divisions based on religion (Jewish and Muslim areas of London, the Catholic/Protestant divide in ireland) Islamic honour killings (Over here there seems to be a few cases every month), people voting in political elections based on religious beliefs instead of what is best for the country and places of worship using public funding which takes it away from education and health care (In places with public health care instead of this bullshit system America uses).

    And that's just off the top of my head. Please don't claim religion has helped advance the world, because that's an outright lie.
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  19. Jay Bee

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    :funny: :popcorn: :eek:wned:

    thats probably 1/8 of what could be listed. i dont see anything dumb about it unless someone religious can make a longer list than this guy^^^
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  20. snowy

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    Not belief in a God but belief in a Religion. I can respect an Agnostic person but when a person quotes me scripture and says this is God given I can only shake my head in disbelief. Not because I can prove or disprove their claim but because they can't either and yet they still base their entire existence around that extreme fault in reasoning.
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