Discussion in 'The Sanctuary' started by TheBigPayback, Aug 16, 2011.
No but it wouldnt be a book written front to back to be able to do all these things u claim.
Did you know God created the dinosaurs in his image?
except that it is a book.....
No but they were among the first of his creations.
Yes its bound together like a book. But its not really supposed to be read front to back. Its more to be read topically. Like a medical book. Say u had a broken arm would u pick up a medical book and read it cover to cover? No ud skip over to the section that explains what to do for a broken arm. You could read it cover to cover but ur arm is turning blue my friend.
about the journery he had when he ascended to heaven for ~300 years
and the descriptions he gave of certain things and the explanations the angel gave him
about the 'watchers' and who they were and what significance they had on earth
i haven't read the book, just been told about it, vaguely though
Are there signatures present? Like in some vault somewhere?
And even if the possibility of their authenticity is proved how exactly does that prove the divinity of their words? You dont think other cultures created belief systems and had complete faith in their words and have things stated in their books that affirm their divinity just as much. Atheists aren't so much denying the possibility of A God. Just most religions based around the arrogance that theirs is a non changing
People advance. They're called 2nd Editions. Or Amendments. Even the US Constitution has changes. The NEW Testament, WHAT IS THAT... Yet it has in Revelations "DONT ADD SHIT TO GODS WORDS"-paraphrased. Like Theirs is Right. And the process has been repeated for as many civilizations that appeared.
Its fucked why Give God credit for these men's creative influence. Maybe they watched too many Grammy acceptance speeches or Pre-Game huddles. Maybe these Holy Books are just Poetic collections of ancient places book clubs. I hear that all that time actually. That somehow the Poetry or Advanced nature of these books lends credence to their divinity. It doesnt. At least not one any more than the other. And some things should be remembered but it again doesnt make the words divine.
If you want to make it about A God Creating Universe at The Big Bang and everything else afterword its not undeniable but if thats the fallback defence of every Religion. The Prove to me their isnt Gods influence cause this is just a Classic Book, a Ancient Civ Best Seller. Shakespeare was good or whoever he copied, Homer's Odyssey, Nostrodamus' Quatrains. I mean its good reading but they are these men's Great Personal works where does god come into play.
Divine Inspiration is akin to a Muse, its just a notion, they dont actually follow you around. But it does of course help to focus. Its a lesson through Myth and while there is nothing inherently bad about it initially upon further assertions that this lesson trumps that lesson without actually having to demonstration the process or outcome.
And how many personal MAN-MADE conveniences do you enjoy on a daily basis. Your Computer, Car, Stereo, Fridge, Dishwasher, Phone, Indoor Plumbing, Electricity as a whole. Its Humanities personal Innovation through hard work, sometimes long time line experiments. Its because of these slow and painful changes that we become the species we are. Its our evolution. And because of these inventions through Humanities ability to Problem Solve and use Tools for advancement.
But not all things work. Just cause you dream up a design for a Flux Capacitor doesnt mean you can plug it into your Delorean and go visit your Grand Parents. Just cause you can dream of Wizadry or Alchemy doesnt mean their process are evidently or at least easily known by any actual confirmable modern observation. People have been screaming in Latin trying to get their Patronus to appear for a few years. How many have you been seeing outside of a literary art re-enacted through special effects?
You think people dont dream of tiny local cold fusion safe reactors for cars/homes everything. Basically eternal batteries. But the dream is not enough. The internal combustion engine was at its best cheap, being an enslaved worker class/religious controlled society it was the most profitable avenue for development. The electric engine had been around doing its thing. It just wasnt affordable, and at the time the batteries where probably quite basic. But through Man's innovation we advance. And everyone for better or worse advances daily because of Man's innovation not any at this time provable God.
Essay Rant.. Probably could New Thread this.. But ...
It gives a back story to yhe fall of lucifer and the 1/3 of the angelic beings. It talks about the watchers and the nephilliam. The days of noah when there were giants in the land, it would take u 1 day to read the whole thing. Its interesting.
the new testiment is the life and teachings of christ. The old testiment is up until christ, and the prophecies of him and what to expect.
... I meant WHAT IS THE POINT of claiming your amendment to the original is even inspired by God. Like God needed to update his memoirs of the world after he penned it.
Because the law was abolished. The new covenant was extended to the gentiles. And the act doctrine had finally become a doctrine of Grace which had always been the plan since gen 1:1 / john 1:1
Of course we know that god can only be as smart (or in this case as stupid, with no foresight) as the people that created him. When people wonder why god is such an asshole, with trivial vain emotions such as jealousy and homicidal anger permeating throughout his personality, they need only look to the primitive assholes who thought him up.
Ya well if u actually took time to read the actual hebrew termonology ud get the fact that jealsoy is a descriptive word and nothing like the context of how we use the word. 'Hate" as well, original word means favored less.
they use jealousy to tell how god wants all the attention. u can flip it as many times as u want but the truth is right there
Now ur just talking to hear yourself talk. If ur not gonna take the time to find out what it really says.
Pot calling the kettle black
Two standards of judgement. The people wanted rules he gave them rules, it was periodical.
So God created a Law which was later abolished.. Sure its his prerogative but it implies that he didnt have a divine set of laws or knowledge of what would work or not. He was just testing this and that out.
Sounds like something Man would do not a God. And if you can admit that it was Man, then their isnt a problem with understanding how a new set of laws evolved as the people progressed.
More like the kettle calling the pot a strainer cus hes not familiar with cooking utensils
Or the people wanted rules so they wrote them down. And they changed because the people/society changed.
Dont need to bring the mystical into the equation for it to make sense. And in fact doing so makes less sense in the grand scheme of things.
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