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Discussion in 'The Sanctuary' started by TheBigPayback, Aug 16, 2011.

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  1. Jay Bee

    Jay Bee Boricua

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    lets not get over technical here BP im sure u know what i mean.

    it is hurting humans to think that god, the bible is god's words, etc is the truth. end of story
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  2. miscreant

    miscreant 1996 was the shit

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    fair enough

    men have used religion to manipulate others and commit atrocities wit out doubt

    i don't have anything against atheists, theists, even scientologists

    just ridic statements

    only thing holding us species back is us
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  3. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

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    why? Its not like it says dont discover, dont imagine, dont try and find out how the world works. Thats why he created the universe to stimulate imagination
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  4. miscreant

    miscreant 1996 was the shit

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    weird cause the basic message i got from the new testament is

    love one another

    and forgive one another

    i can't think of any other message i got from it really

    i guess you right though

    loving and forgiving can really lead to self destruction

    my bad
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  5. Mrjdm998

    Mrjdm998 New Member

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    Again, religion has caused many problems in the world today. I never said the bible, I said religion in general.
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  6. miscreant

    miscreant 1996 was the shit

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    hey?

    men have caused many problems in the world today?

    no doubt

    we'll use anything we can to achieve what we want

    religion

    patriotism

    racism

    whatever works
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  7. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

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    See thats a bit different than what u originaly said about holding back our species. But still should u be blaming the religion (of course depending on which and whats taught) or should u be blaming the people that may claim a certain religion
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  8. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    how is that hurting humans? lol, fuck out of here man.

    hurting somebody if they don't believe in what you're trying to preach would be.

    but how does it hurt somebody to believe in an afterlife, a consoling mechanism to get by the trials and tribulations of this world? how does that hurt you? if bp believes the bible to be god's word, how does that affect or hurt your life? hurt humans? c'mon man.

    bp can believe in whatever the fuck he pleases, that's up to him. just as you don't believe in the concept of a god or a higher deity, carry on with that. i'm not sitting here claiming you hurt humans by not believing in god.

    believing the bible to god's literal word COULD be hurting or stunting your education when it comes to science, but believing in a god doesn't really equate to hurting anybody, nor does it stunt your education.

    so no, bp is not hurting humans.

    :numaan:
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  9. miscreant

    miscreant 1996 was the shit

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    ^said it better than i could

    i see hate emanating from atheists

    like real hate

    it's ok

    we accept your belief or lack of

    relax, no one gonna crucify you
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  10. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

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    Word. I wouldnt say it hurts a belief in science really either. I accept things proven by science. I just dont put 100% faith in non-100% ideas.
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  11. Mrjdm998

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    THIS is what my list was responding to. Do you realise how different our world would be without all these religious wars going on all the time?
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  12. Jay Bee

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    once again you have taken my words and twisted them. I did not say religious people physically hurt of mentally abuse people!!!! I said believing in what numaan said near the end when I said it stunts ur education in science and critical thinking. Also it promotes livng life through faith which is a stupid fucking thing. Bp gets constantly ridiculed for refusing to listen to anything that goes against his religion and that is ridiculous. I do not hate religious people, I think most of you are bright cool and I fucks wit yall. I also think most of the morals it teaches are wonderful. But if you are taking ur religion as an excuse to refuse to listen to reason no matter what!!! Then that is bullshit.
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  13. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    bp has his own path.

    all i want you to do is not to bundle all religious folk into one boat, we are different.

    islam encourages us to learn, to go great lengths to learn.

    hell (no pun intended), the first word revealed to the prophet muhammad was "read".

    :numaan:
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  14. miscreant

    miscreant 1996 was the shit

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    islam created universities/higher education i think

    when you start to feel like atheists just hate something they don't understand

    persecute something they don't understand

    alienate something they don't understand

    harbor animosity and resentment of something they don't understand

    atheist starts to sound a lot like racist
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  15. NightmareEx

    NightmareEx The Beast

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    That's all well and good EXCEPT for one very important thing that you forgot. Beliefs dictate action. BP's beliefs are small minded, close minded and bigoted as shit. If given ANY power (which he has, as one voice in the free world among a sea who share his stupid beliefs) it can be wielded to hurt others and often does.

    Hell fuckin yes belief in certain things leads to negative effects for humanity and even hurting people. And in BPs case, yes yes he is and he needs to crawl into an airtight hole and never come out.
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  16. NightmareEx

    NightmareEx The Beast

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    *was baptized at 13*
    *vacation bible school 2 years strait before and 1 summer after*
    *read bible front to back*
    *AP honors in history throughout high school*
    *sought historical/biblical research in college using University resources*

    ....yea, I understand the Abrahamic faiths perfectly, that's WHY I hate them.
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  17. miscreant

    miscreant 1996 was the shit

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    beliefs don't dictate action

    a man dictate's his actions

    his belief might influence how he chooses to act

    but belief in and of itself don't dictate

    but lets say belief does directly dictate ones actions

    i believe in God, i believe Jesus died for my sins

    i believe Jesus wanted everybody to love and forgive one another

    so this would lead me to believe i shouldn't judge someone, i shouldn't harm someone and i shouldn't resent or begrudge anyone

    so who am i harming in the process? if my belief directly dictates my actions

    but, my belief don't dictate my actions

    i have judged, i have hurt, i have resented and held grudges, because i am a man and i dictate my actions
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  18. miscreant

    miscreant 1996 was the shit

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    nightmare, maybe that's why

    you're obviously well educated in regards to catholicism (i'm assuming)

    to me, belief/faith whatever you wanna call it, isn't about studying something inside out

    i started reading the bible in prison and literally haven't picked it up in a long time

    i can't quote you passages

    but after reading it, it didn't leave me wit a malevolent message like you seem to have found in it

    quite the opposite
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  19. Jay Bee

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    fair enough. When I say "all yall" I only mean to say those that believe in a higher being. It's not intended to look at all those that are religious as complete fools
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  20. Jay Bee

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    as far as atheist sound like racist that's just crazy. You can't help ur race, you can help ur beliefs. I usually am respectful to yall beliefs even though I don't agree, what annoys mi is when people try to defend their beliefs with absolute stupidity (dont make me give examples bcuz I will) or tell mi "whatever ur going to burn in hell u'll c then"
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