Curtis 'Ratson' Cent.... Supreme talks about what really happened in the new 2006 Vib

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  1. Smile

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    Excerpts Taken from VIBE july 2006...courtesy of SKJ productions (smile) :
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    by Ethan Brown

    When Kenneth "Supreme" Mcgriff is led down from his cell to a closet-size confrence room, his mood shifts from jovial to fierce. "People in here (jail) think I should be angry with you" says Mcgriff..

    Pulling a chair up.."They say you made me look....pauses..."bufoonish".

    Supreme is not being oversensitive, just before our meeting at the Metropolitian Detention Center in Brooklyn, I (ethan brown) had come out with a book called 'QUEENS REIGNS SUPREME: THE RISE OF THE HIP HOP HUSTLER that chronicled Supreme's stewardship of the crack dealing Supreme Team during the 1980's, including a raid on a stash house in which he was busted with blow on his face.

    "Cocaine on my face, huh?" he says sternly

    It should have been a sh1t in your pants moment, but panic subsides when i size up Mcgriff..His slight 5foot8 frame is draped in a tan prison jumpsuit, and his graying beard makes him look older than his 45 years.

    But on the street , Supreme is a towering legend, mythologized for his 80's crime exploits by various rappers. Federal Prosecuters contend that , like the Supreme Team of the 1980's which he helmed rank over. Mcgriff once again carried out Mafia style murders while moving kilos of coke.

    Though Mcgriff potentially faces the death penalty, the charges against him (to which he pleads not guilty) will be overshadowed in hip hop circles by another accusation (for which he has not yet been indicted) the accusation that he ordered the shooting of 50 Cent in 2000.

    Despite Supreme's fearsome rep, in person , he seems far from a typical thug. On his cell table are Salman Rushdie's "Shalimar the Clown" and Jimmy Carter's "Our Endangered Values": America's Moral Crisis.

    Kenneth Mcgriff once had a repuation as being one of South Jamaica's best and brightest. He was a talented student, avid football player and welcome presence in his queens neighborhood.

    But when Mcgriff discovered the teachings of the Five Percenters, an offshoot of the N.O.I teachings, he began to envision himself as a different kind of leader.

    Soon Mcgriff formed a small crew of his own, selling retail amounts of coke in Baisley Park Homes in jamaica , queens. He named himself SUPREME, in the five percent tradition and dubbed his crew the SUPREME TEAM.

    At first the crew was strongly conflicted about embracing the ethics of the five percenters alongside the Queens underworld. "Alot of the brothers and sisters didn't like the idea that we hustled because it was contrary to the lessons (five percent dogma). " remembers close friend "Knowledge"

    But the drug money of the 80's proved to lucrative to be resisted and the crew soon lived out it's moniker.

    Crack Cocaine arrival in 84, breeded a new style of hustling empowered by extreme violence. It also attracted alot of heat, Supreme was arrested on narcotics charges in 85, and ceded power to his nephew Gerald "Prince' Miller, but thier leadership styles could not have been more different. Mcgriff was a meticulous organizer who formed alliances and tended to use force coldly and carefully to preserve power.

    Where as Prince on the other hand took the crew in a brutal direction, beginning with the Supreme Team "butchering" of four Columbian cocaine dealers in Baisley Park Homes with bodies stuffed in trash bags. Yet few were worried about the Supreme Team getting caught as law enforcement was tied down with Mafioso crime families, federal authorities were rather lenient and lax in regards to crack crime lords.

    All that changed in 1988, when Officer Byrne was shot in his police car while he guarded the home of a guyanese immigrant whom had informed the police about Lorenzo "FAT CAT" Nichols. Federal Officals sought out both Lorenzo , Prince, Pappy and Supreme and as a result the SUPREME TEAM was brought to it's knees with Supreme catching a 12 year sentence.

    As Mcgriff sat in prison , his fame only grew, illustrated in the songs by artist such as Nas's "Memory Lane" (Some fiends scream about SUPREME TEAM , a Jamaica Queens thing). Just prior to Nas debut in 1994, Mcgriff came home in 1993, while in prison Mcgriff had immersed himself in grimy street novels like the works of Donald Goines and his dream was to turn a novel into a film. He figured his best entree into the film industry was through hip hop.

    Later that year Mcgriff had met Irv at a video shoot. Although from different sections of queens as well as different walks of life, they took a liking to each other. Gotti being "DJ IRV" whom moved mixtapes at 10$ a pop, while Supreme was the menacing coke kingpin whom moved kilos for thousands of dollars.

    Aligned with IRV , Mcgriff reaped the benifits of being in the shadow of IRV's success while at DEF JAM, and having Supreme around gave Murder Inc. street cred and implied a strong fear factor as voiced by Jarule on a Def Jam compliation freestyle.."Funds Unlimited ..backed by my Preme Team crime represenatives"

    At this same time, Murder Inc.'s presece irritated many, including a young Curtis Jackson aka 50 Cent whom spent his adolesence pitching crack vials in Supreme's old Jamaica Queens territory.

    During 50's early part of his career, 50 wasn't shy about making his feelings known about Murder Inc. and Jarule in particular.

    The drama ignited when in early 2000, Ja was robbed of his jewelry outside his Queens home. 50 whom was 24 at the time, seized on the incident ("Your Life is on the line") as proof that despite thier alliance with Supreme, Murder Inc. rappers were not safe even in thier own neighborhood. 50 claims that a friend of his was the perpetrator.

    But Mcgriff disagrees and contends that the robber was a young thug under the Supreme Team whom commited the crime. "I always see articles where 50 is saying that his man robbed Ja"...supreme says.."Wrong..that was my man, i raised him".
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    The incident also raised the eyebrows of the Feds, whom said it cited thier theory that Mcgriff served as protection for the label in exchange for funding his movie. the Feds said that Mcgriff threatned the robber into submission.

    "It didn't take intimidation" Preme says.."It didn't take threats for me to say, What's wrong with you, man? You gotta give it back."

    A few months later Mcgriff tried to squash the beef with 50............

    "i sat down with 50, I said listen man...this is nonsense!"..Preme remembers.

    "but 50 loves to keep things going, he would say.."Yeah , your right Supreme, i respect you , man." and then turn around and go totally contrary to what we just talked about."..and "I would just scratch my head..."

    During the Murder Inc. trial , prosecuters allege that Mcgriff acting as muscle for the label issued death threats against 50 during those sitdowns.

    "I?!??..threatned him?!?!?!!!!! supreme asks incredulousily, "We use to talk all the time, as a matter of fact, i told him, i want you to be in this movie, (CRIME PARTNERS) that i'm ready to do. And this was when he was a nobody."

    Supreme says he abandoned peacemaking efforts when he realized that 50 was an "agent provocateur" a billing 50 would live up to with his mixtape song "GHETTO QURAN" which vividly described the s. jamaica crack trade. "Yes, it was factual"..says Mcgriff.."He said in the song, Preme was the businessman, and Prince was the killer."

    But he still feels that 50 shouldn't have aired dirty laundry.."When we was coming up there was a code on the streets, a code of conduct, which was you never speak of dudes whom may still be in the streets'. Preme also scoffs at 50 posing as his rival. "Kid, you've never been through nothing...supreme says.."I was around wolves, man, i walked among giants."

    As for the shooting, which was lamented on a mixtape track entitled "F--- YOU"..50 rhymed.."50 who shot ya?..You think it was Preme, Freeze or Tah Tah?"

    The U.S Attorney points the finger at Mcgriff, and is set to present evidence at his trial in Brooklyn. In court documents, the office contends the shooting was done in retaliation for "Ghetto Quran".

    The theory was given further boost, when investigators asked 50 whom shot him, he responded..."agents should read his lyrics" according to an affidavit.

    Mcgriff reacts angrily when 50's rhymes are mentioned, "This dude sensationalizes everything!"

    "All his statements are incendiary, the government believes every lyric, and then he says "Read my lyrics!"..where i'm from that is considered dry snitching".

    Now with a trial looming in the near future, 50 you would think would be of lesser concern , considering that Mcgriff is being considered to be executed by state authorized death penalty.

    Even if he is acquitted of the most seroius offenses, Mcgriff previous convictions almost gurantee him a lifetime in prison. But he seems to embrace his fate: "You can put the death penalty on me"...he says.

    "I've done everything that i've wanted to do" says Supreme.

    Perhaps only death will liberate Supreme from his notorious past and from 50's onslaught.

    "I've never been fascinated by someone who got money" says Preme.

    "What fascinates me is the struggle , not some dude getting money, the struggle is what defines a man" .
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  3. Parental_Advisory

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    Preme is desperate for attention

    Yes Preme, the Feds had NO IDEA of your illegal activities till 50 mentioned you in "Ghetto Quaran"...their whole basis for their investigation and arrest was that song...
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  4. OrtizDupri

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    EXACTLY.

    Cats act like the FBI just sat around going "I wonder where we can find evidence on this 'Supreme' fellar"... and then one of them happened to grab a 50 Cent mixtape and yell "I got it!"

    Hell, he was already in jail before "Ghetto Quran" came out, they OBVIOUSLY had evidence on duke.
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  5. C. Junior

    C. Junior my name is

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    interesting.

    so what really happened is what i thought happened lol. only thing different i see is Preme saying that the guy that robbed Ja, was one of his men and not 50's.

    "i'm a hundred times, bigger than Preme in his prime"
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  6. -Oz-

    -Oz- ^^^^^

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    50 is a snake though.
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  7. Smile

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    Damn @ 50 doin him greazy.

    I'd be pissed off if I was in prison for life like he is now thanks to Curtis '50' Snitchson
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  8. iLoveEbay

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    They are all just thug ass crack dealers that do nothing to help anyone in society. McGriff is a piece of shit, and whether he rots in jail for the rest of his pathetic life or gets the death penalty, it makes no difference to me. 50 Cent was a bottom of the todem-poll crack dealer. All of my friends, including myself, sold drugs in that capacity growing up. It's not really a big deal, kind of a right of passage. I'm sure everyone on here has moved a bag of weed, or coke, or something for a few extra bucks.

    People glamorize these bitches, I'm more impressed with people who develop things to help society as a whole. Selling crack? Yea, I'm really impressed buddy.
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  9. XMoonsh!neX

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    Exactly.

    Fuck 50 Cent, he's an snake bitch and a bad rapper.

    Fuck Preme, he was a crack kingpin who in no way helped society.
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  10. L.R.G

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    idk but that "article" did look like a writer for Vibe wrote it. some shit was mispelled and grammer in some parts was wrong but w/e.

    dudes right. Supreme needs attention like article said hes in prision facin death, if i was gonna die i would wanna leave somethin behind even if its tryin to mess up somebody credibility.
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  11. Asiasiasia

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    damn 50 is cool but he really snitched i guess. he can't fuck with Preme though
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