Could your favorite rapper most likely be a Boule member?

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  1. Radium

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    yais very true what you posted, and yet, though barriers are what ultimately transform us into a unique person, not every barrier is necessary - and some are even bad for you. i guess the unique mix is the thing.

    and even then, we see there always still is this trend towards ecstasy. more potent/intense ecstasy seems to always replace less potent/intense ecstasy in things. i think american culture and society has displayed this in many ways; possibly rome and mayan cultures and society, and others too. its very hard to reverse ecstasy i think. once you get to have it, its very very hard to go backwards to not having it. thats probably why there seems to be this big invisible arrow pointing this trend forward to more and more ecstasy: it can go forward, but it cant go backwards. thus, it always just notches up.

    if we never aged, would we ever stop playing what are ultimately games of sexual relevance - the kind that teenagers are so absorbed into? maybe we would just keep playing them forever, notching up to ever increasingly potent states of ecstasy as achieved by taking down different barriers to sexual relevance over and over. maybe this is why humans age at the rate that they do. maybe there was a group of humans a long time ago in our evolutionary past that didnt age like we do today, and as a result ultimately became so decadent and self indulgent that they destroyed themselves.

    supposing we took down every barrier, i think we would uiltimately end up looking like kefka. kefka in my eyes, is an ultimate human being. he has taken down every single barrier and now always constantly exists in a state of pure and absolute ecstasy. could you say that you would act any differently if you had all of your barriers taken down? you would probably act just like kefka; probably anyone would.

    in the future when technology improves in such a way that it actually can take down many big physical barriers to ecstasy (scarcity, aging, death, injury) we might eventually see a figure in power rise up and self proclaim himself as a god of everything and become a brand new kefka. if the trend to ecstasy can only notch up, then its even likely that we would eventually see this happen one day. thats going to be an interesting conflict for human history.
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  2. Radium

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    LOLiwas trying to play ff6 for the 1rst time a while back and got stuck in that moogle cave in the begining. i think i f'd up somehow because i wasnt supposed to just get stuck like that. like i was really trapped in the cave like i couldnt even go anywhere. it was horrid.
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  3. x calibur

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    true indeed.

    as for aging, I see it as a process to create a continual turnover of the human population to assist in survival. This is for genetic reasons, but also for environmental factors. The change of generations keeps the human race sharp and adaptable, but it could also be for the reason you stated.

    Once you've experienced various forms of ecstasy, you'll want more potency and variety in these experiences. There is always that continual trend of notching it upwards, and without barriers it can be a runaway effect.

    I can't honestly say that I'm above becoming what Kefka was. without barriers, being able to improve myself and extend my mind and will indefinitely, I'd find it extremely difficult to reject being a god-emperor. I probably would take that path eventually, even if it didn't happen quickly.

    bioengineering and such is definitely going to present many new challenges and issues. Once we break free from the ancient limitations of flesh, there's no telling where that could lead. sci-fi has explored various possibilities, such as cyborgs, mind uploading, etc. There's also the vision presented in Ghost in the Shell, where computers/internet and reality get completely intwined.

    The greater flow of information online helps the individual become more aware, but it also allows influences to run farther and wider at a faster rate. How biologically modified humans and this will interact is difficult to predict. We may see another big separation between upper and lower classes of society. There may be new states of being.

    Human nature will mostly be consistent though, at least for awhile. I hope that we can go to space before things get too dangerous.
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  4. x calibur

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    It's been a long time, but wasn't there a light that's supposed to guide you?
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    it would explain the blatant faggotry in hip hop...Lil B and lil wayne for example
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    em the example i gave of an evolutionary seperate group of humans is probably unlikely but i just use it to show a way that barriers can work to alter the routes we take towards different forms of ecstasy - and why thts ultimately necessary for human beings. for example, male pattern baldness is considered in theory by some as a way to reduce risk taking behavior in males. if im remembering it right, something about losing hair for males causes them to become less aggressive and risky. obviously this is more conducive for parenting.

    thus, from that, we might conclude that male pattern baldness is a barrier that was gradually engendered through our evolutionary history as a way to make males more likely to behave responsibly and parent, and less likely to take risks and be aggressive. essentially, a barrier was created to stop the ecstasy created through immature behavior - so that humans could be better parents.

    i think the aging process works on the same theme; barriers are gradually put in place to stop the big push we make towards sexual relevance, which is the way, as youth, we create so much of our ecstasy. these barriers make us less self indulgent and dependent in that type of ecstasy and force us to search for other, perhaps more sustainable, types of ecstasy. its basically just a big re-direction by using a very interesting set of barriers.


    yeah thats why it was important to talk about the future and the power of technology to remove what might actually be protective- barriers within humanity. if we start removing some of these protective-barriers, we might then start to run out and notch up to more potent/intense ecstasy and start making us increasingly decadent and self indulgent to the point that we risk becoming just like kefka. who would ever be really strong willed enough to deny taking that much ecstasy - to actually become a god of ecstasy, like kefka.

    a type of major conflict that may spring up could be that some ultimately may try to say, that we take the route kefka had taken, removing our many barriers to ecstasy, and then becoming perfect gods with perfect ecstasy vs choosing to keep our barriers, and choosing to stay uniquely imperfect as a result; human .

    perhaps that already happened, and we are actually living in a universe that had chosen in its past to stay imperfect. the barriers that we experience in this universe (scarcity, aging, injury, death) are actually protective barriers which are designed to make us adapt and create a unique identity in response to these barriers (re-direction) instead of simply becoming perfect like kefka. perhaps being uniquely flawed because we exist behind so many of these barriers to perfect ecstasy was ultimately the highest and most important thing that was learned at the end of that major conflict.

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    LOL actually... i was thinking about this...

    i dont think theres been any study on it yet but, it seems to me that internet pornography would play an absolutely giant role on marriages

    i mean, the internet is really only 15 yrs old i think, maybesomething like 10 yrs or 20 yrs depending on when you got hooked up. so internet pornography and its effects on marriages are totally new. pornography itself, is even relatively new at least in a way that it can ultimately considered as being distributed and consumed w efficacy eg theres a huge difference between viewing porn on silent films vs viewing porn on the internet (we again see here an example of the trend of ecstasy taking down different types of barriers and notching upwards towards more and more ecstasy inducing states)

    i dont know what its effects really are but i imagine it creates just a huge elephant in the room for married couples.

    relationship trends are pretty interesting as we go further out into the future and we start to remove many barriers that used to exist. many of them possibly being protective barriers that were necessary for many systems to really even work. if we start to see them failing, it may signal that we must make adjustments so that we ourselves dont fall into similar traps. the premise of marriage and of relationships may have to now be redefined for example.
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    word. we live in a limited reality that is indifferent to us. so some of these barriers may be helpful in our survival. You could call some barriers discipline, while other barriers may be called prudishness or timidness, depending on how useful they are.

    to become an ecstatic god like kefka might lead us to destroy ourselves and those around us. we've seen this pattern manifest before (I gave historical examples), though fortunately we've survived it so far.

    I bring up space because 1. I believe space colonization is our ultimate destiny, and 2. it's relevant to the discussion of limitations. reality DOES have limits, such as the speed of light. if our technology leads us to transcendental states and powers, we might see many new and unique challenges and benefits from taking down so many barriers. So, by relying on the hard barriers of the physical universe, we can assure our survival. Those barriers will protect us even if we've broken all others, as long as we go to the stars.

    You could almost spin this into a religious view - in which our souls chose to enter this limited universe and imperfect condition in order to grow.

    who knows, but however we got here, we're here, and I'd like us to continue.
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    word. porn has been around for a long time, but its ubiquitous presence and content is brand new. It's definitely having an effect. in the case of marriage, many people will have to draw up new terms - in which looking at other people having sex in porn, or even living through it vicariously does not constitute cheating. it definitely seems like a different act than even watching sexual acts in person - many porn viewers see it as a visual that they like. Meanwhile, some conservative women get jealous or upset over it, when clearly this is just a new dynamic that needs to be agreed on.

    porn can help people satisfy their urges and fill their appetite for even the weirdest stuff, which may help prevent those feelings from turning to destructive ends. on the other hand, porn does desensitize us. there was a time when people fapped to lingerie catalogues, now you can easily see beautiful women do almost everything imaginable.

    also, I like sasha gray, asa akira, and lacey duvalle. lolz
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    yeah who really knows. what it even means to be human is always changing. before this we were apes and before that we were fish. rules for things always change as we change. maybe everything we were just talking about in here can be invalidated by uncovering some newer, greater truth about reality/humanity. i agree its important to explore space and just generally technology and science to try to get closer to that.

    honestly i think i really started looking at things that way and thinking in that way when my dad died pretty recently. at first i was really angry because i really hated him and i thought he was a terrible person. i havent seen him in so many years or even talked with him so i thought i would be happy that he was dead but i was just really angry. i think what it really was wasthat i wanted my dad to be a better dad and thats why i was mad at him. i got choked up like really bad when i realized that. the only thing i really want the most is to be his son again but for the next time for him to be more loving and more righteous as a man and as a father. like i just really want to try the whole thing again. and i just really pray and look forward to this because i know that one day i get to have a second chance as his son and having him as a dad to do everything with him we really should have and i know he understands that too. i think it was important to exist in this flawed universe just to learn that. thats basically how i got that idea. as far as a religion nah i dont know its not that serious. its what i believe though
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    x by th way also, this has been the strangest conversation i have ever had in my life
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    word. evolution has allowed life to adapt to almost every different environment. With our technology, we've been able to mold reality to our desires.

    But with the possibilities of biotechnology, we may start molding ourselves to our desires. We can do that to a limited degree already, but for the most part, human nature has been very consistent. We can read ancient literature and understand it, it's not alien to us. But someday we may get to the point that humans diverge with the help of technology, to the point that we might even branch out into different species - something that hasn't been seen since the neanderthals.

    Whatever may come, I see space colonization as the best possible insurance of survival. It may also play a direct role in this, as humans will be encouraged to modify themselves to adjust to different planets and living conditions.

    hm, I can't comment on this too much. there are many struggles, internal and external, which can be unique to the individual. We've come pretty far as a species, but there's still alot more.


    lol word, I was thinking that too. But for you, that's really saying something. lol no offense. but you do often go on tangents.

    Others are welcome to jump in and throw in their 2 cents as well. what happened to cats like mcgirth?
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    lolyeh i was scanning this thread over again from the start and was like wtf

    i think most people just get annoyed when it comes to considering different types of things like this. ive started to become more aware of how uncessairly negative people can when they interpret things and i guess for most people things are usually just interpreted as being in their way, so instead of stopping to consider stuff in new and possibly more profound ways they just interpret them as a burden of some kind. so i give you props having a convo about puff daddy, kefka, aging, space, religuous implications, and probably some other stuff etc etc

    mgirth i sthink is in law school still, or works for the gov or something like that i think. basically what that means is that he is currently buried underneath a human sized/shaped stack of papers right now
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    word.

    I'm open minded, and willing to discuss all different possibilities and tangents. As far as people reacting negatively, they probably just get flustered by your long trains of thought which make connections between varied topics. This is compounded if they have a worldview limited by certain beliefs.
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    Noncentz Sieg Heil, M'fer!

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    Sean Combs is the devil and playing all music, no correction, mainstream music, backwards will reveal satanic verses.

    :funny:

    I wonder how many schizophrenics are on this board at any given time, bets?
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  16. Alias3000

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    Diddy now does his shows in Irish Kilts. Fag shit
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    Scottish Kilts. Nothing gay about a Kilt though.
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    greatest post ever to be made in rm history.

    bar fucking none.

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    I just hate how JD torture Kriss Kross. yall seen dem boys lately?...#disturbed
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    *plays lil boosie-get these devils off me*
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