clearing misconceptions about islam and evolution ...

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  1. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    Richard Dawkins was asked the question "Can you think of an example of a mutation that increases genetic complexity"

    He was totally silent for 19 seconds, then answered, "Shut the tape off please" Because he even knew there aren't any.

    There are no mutations that increase genetic complexity. You might shuffle genes around but you are never adding new genetic material.

    Some text books will call it DIVERGENT Evolution. They give it a fancy name, but still a dog will never evolve into a whale or corn will never grow to produce tomato buds. Fancy names do not change the facts.

    In a 100 years of selective breeding the Kentucky Derby finish times went from 127 seconds to 123. Millions and millions of dollars spent on this selection of traits suited for racing speed. I don't know if they reached the limit of horse speed or not, but I suspect they are reaching the limit. IF you really want to win the derby, why don't you breed wings on your horse and fly around the track in 12 seconds ?

    Sure variations happen but there are limits. Why can evolutionist not see this ? Because there is an agenda (NWO). They want to believe that there is enough variety that a rock can turn into a human after millions of years.

    The only evidence to support evolution is known lies. I'm sick of it.
    Suppose I had a theory that the moon is made of green cheese. It's a dumb theory but I don't care. Then suppose I said NASA proved it when they went there on a secret mission in 1973 and drilled a hole and found that the moon is made of green cheese. Now we have a problem. I have a dumb theory that the moon is made of cheese, which is fine, but I have created LIES to support my theory. That's not fine. It's worse to get paid by tax dollars to preach this lie.

    You have evidence for evolution I want to see it, I really do. NO evidence ? I'm sorry, get a new theory. It works this way with everything but not for evolution, why ? It's the only way they can get rid of God.

    More lies in the text books...

    They say they have evidence from fossils. This is silly. No fossils could even count for evolution. No fossils count. They would not even hold up in a court of law. You can prove bones had any kids. And you sure can't prove they had different kids. If you want to believe these bones are our ancestors, go ahead...now your off to religion and not science.

    Some people have a hard time letting it go, and will lie to you .

    The text books will use fruit flys as examples for evolution. They put those flys in microwaves, they x-rayed them and did a lot of this kind of stuff to them in labortories...and those flies mutated. They got flies with curled wings, they could not go anywhere. From this they also got a fly with no wings...it crawled. And yet, fruit flys have yet become anything but fruit flys under anything YET devised (like microwaving).

    Conclusions from the fly experiments:

    1. all mutations observed were inferior to the original fly.

    But they also concluded that fruit flys have evolved as far they can go. There is another conclusion: maybe fruit flys were doing fine until you got ahold of them in your laboratory. God made them right to begin with. Is this something you can even consider as an option ?
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  2. Coup d'état

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    The text books say: Learn to think critically. Asking, "do you think humans are still evolving?" What kind of question is this ? It's like asking "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" If I answer yes, I'm admitted to doing it. That question has a built in assumption. That is not a fair question or is it critical thinking. That is a Soviet style indoctrination type question.

    Evolutionist also teach that animals with similar bone structures must have a common ancestor because they are alike. Why can't it be that we have a common designer ? Just because an alligator has homologous bone structure similar to some bones in the human body does not mean anything of evolution, nor proves it. Yet they teach it that way.

    Conclusions from comparative anatomy:
    1. Many animals have similar forlimb structure.

    2. They say then, they must have a common ancestor.

    3. All this help prove we came from a rock.

    Darwin considered this to be the strongest single class of evidence for his theory. It is now called the biometric law.
    The gills that babies have in the womb actually go on to develop into the ear and other observed anatomy. IT has nothing to do with breathing or evolving away from our common ancestor the fish. This all stems from drawings an embryonic professor taught and drew after reading Darwin's book. In 1875 the drawings were proven false and still, 125 years later they were still being used to support evolution. The professor was Heackle. Some may recall that name.
    A lot of people like the theory of evolution because it gets rid of God. But it is taught on lies. IF you got evidence show it to me, don't lie to me.

    Here is a word from the National Center for Science Education:



    Only the last one, micro-evolution, has anything to do with real science. For all of human history we have observed variations within the kinds such as 400± varieties of dogs coming from a dog-like ancestor such as a fox or a wolf. Dogs produce dogs and corn produces corn. There may be great variations within the basic kind but that is NOT evidence that dogs and corn are related. Every farmer on planet earth counts on micro evolution happening as he develops crops or herds best suited for his area, but he also counts on macro-evolution NOT happening. Anything other than minor changes within the kind is not part of science. Evolution as defined as macro-evolution is a religion in every sense of the word. People are welcome to BELIEVE the first five types of evolution, but they are not part of science or common sense. Micro evolution is implied as evidence for the other five.

    Moving on...

    Matter can not be created or destroyed ? How did the world get here ? Humanist believe the world created itself from literally nothing from the "Big Bang" about 18-20 Billion years ago...This is the real fairy tale because atheist state that dirt got together from nothing, really nothing and exploded into everything.

    So there are two Religions.

    One is the Religion of Evolution and the other true one: Christianity.
    One says in the beginning dirt...The other says in the beginning God...
    It's Religion vs. Religion. World View vs. World View. One is of truth and love, the other is the exact opposite of the truth in every way. The latter makes more sense and has more real scientific evidence. Because it is the only truth. If you pay attention you will see the Evolutionary Humanist world view is back wards from the bible in every way. Up is down and down is up.
    Moreover, if Evolution be true and considering all the kinds of Evolution then this must be answered according to the religion of Evolution:

    Why are laws not evolving ? Laws like gravity ?

    Where did energy come from to run these laws ?

    Example, take the law of the Conservation of Angular Motion and hold it true. Why are some galaxies spinning the wrong way according to the law? Why do two known planets spin backward? Why do 8 of 91 known moons spin backward ? If the big bang be true, these observations break the law of the conservation of angular motion. I think God did this to make the "Big Bang" theory to look dumb and false. Because if the Big Bang were true, matter and energy would be evenly distributed across the universe...it is not.

    Example, according to the ND law of thermodynamics, it is not permitted for order to arise from disorder. Everything breaks down into chaos, but evolution teaches that you will become gods. Also, with this law in mind, adding energy is destructive and evolution violates all this.

    I tell you the truth, our ancestors were not sea sponges. But humanist will lead you on and teach unto you that you are an animal ans share common ancestors with earth worms. Kids are also taught there are no absolutes as well. Are we absolutely sure about this ?
    How can you atheist tell right from wrong ? You see, the fallacy of evolution destroys kids faith in the bible. Let's look onto scripture about the danger of doing so:

    Matthew 18:6

    But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea

    It is interesting to note that in 1957 the Russians launched Sputnik, the first man made satellite into space. At this point, the Russians were leading the space race. Americans came unto panic and thought that be what the Russians were teaching was the reasons they were ahead in this scientific achievement. They though that because they taught evolution they were smarter...LOL
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    In 1959, Dwight D. Eisenhower on the TH anniversary of Darwin's Origins of Species, called on congress for a billion dollar Cold War Education Reconstruction Bill to transform the way our children are taught in Public Schools. You guess it, Evolution was ramped up. Though this is not the beginnings of this being taught. It marks a shift away from God into the NWO biased agenda of Evolution...It's also remarkable to note that in the 1960's the United States saw a drastic decline in morality, and the decay of our nation, and the world for that matter, Delcine morally. Look up the stats if you want...The hippie movement also took root, which is heavily humanist, believing that we don't even exist at all. LOL

    You can kiss a frog and it transforms into a prince. Kiss frog and it SLOWLY transforms into a prince (Prince William for example).

    One is called a fairy tale and the former is called modern science. The magic word: Billions and Billions of years ago....Atheist talk like this a fact of science. Where you there billions of years ago ? Did you test or demonstrate this, ...you can't. It happens so slow that it does not even happen.
    In short, Evolution is Satan's Religion and this false theory has influenced the rise of communism, socialsim, Marxism, Nazism and the New World Order.



    Lies in the text books:

    One of the biggest lies in the text books began back in 1830 when they developed the Geologic Column. They started to tell everybody that each of the layer of rock you see is a different age.

    Cretaceous

    Jurassic

    Triassic

    Premain

    Carboniferous

    Sulrian

    Ordovician

    Cambrain

    All this was invented out of the clear blue sky, most of the names come from England (Cretaceous was chalk layers over in Cristisha and Devonshire for example). This geological column does not exist anywhere on Earth but in the text books.

    Each layer was given a round number in age. Charles Darwin did not like these round numbers so he said the Wealden deposits in England were 306,662,400 years old. How he got that number I don't know. How can he have been sure of this number anyhow ?

    All over the world there are petrified trees standing up, connecting in different rock layers. 27 layers of forests at Specimen Ridge Yellowstone, Wy, have broken off roots and extended trough the layers. They did not grow there.

    Here we have been teaching kids that the layers are millions of years old and yet the tress remain in the vertical position. It's not common sense to say the layers are different ages when you have a tree connecting them all (the many layers of strata).

    Science works when somebody has a theory and they hold against available evidence. The evidence shows the rock layers are not millions years old. This has been known for centuries.

    The evolution theory is biased on this geological column being millions of years old. It is not. The column does not exist.

    -Dr. John Woodmorappe, geologist

    "The Essential Non-Existence of the Evolutionary Uniforminatrian Column.
    Even though this column does not exist, it changed peoples world view in the 1800s. People began to doubt the creation story because that was commonly taught then. They began to believe the Earth is millions of years old.

    This teaching effected a young theology professor who just graduated Bible school. His name was Charles Darwin. He graduated to become a pastor in a church in England. Darwin brought the bible and Charles Lyell's book Principles of Geology on his 5 year voyage. That is the book that destroyed his faith. Changed his life forever.


    Darwin later said,

    At the Galapagos Islands he notice 14 varieties of Finches. He looked at them and thought they all had a common ancestor. He's right (it's a bird).
    During wet years the beaks get thinner and during dry years the beaks get thicker....by 1/10 of one millimeter in average beak thickness (from wet years to dry years).

    Ladies and Gentlemen, that is your evidence for the earth forming 4-6 Billion years ago ?

    Darwin then wrote in his book after studying at the Galapagos and other places around the world, "It's a truly wonderful fact that all animals and all plants throughout all time and space should be related to each other"

    -Origin of Species p 170

    And that proves birds are related to bananas. Just because you see 14 kinds of birds it does not mean birds and bananas are related. Charlie observed mirco evolution. But really we should just call it variation. Calling it "Mirco" gives it the free rider effect.

    This is observable, it is scientific and it is backed by scripture. Micro, or variation is plain fact and it happens.

    The question is, this variation, or 'micro' evolution go any further than this ? You may get a big dog or little dog, but you will always get a dog. Every single time. It could be very well that the dog, the wolf and the coyote had a common ancestor...nobody argues this. Even though they are three totally separate species.

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    The bible got it right on variation (micro evolution)

    "...the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind...the living creature after its kind..." Genesis 1

    Meaning they can bring forth. The dog and wolf can bring forth. Produce offspring. A dog and banana can't.
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  4. Look im Gangsta

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    Evolution can't tell me how much tax credits I'll earn, thus it can't be true.

    I fucking hope you just copy and pasted every last word of that.
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  5. Coup d'état

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    and to say nothing about "carbon dating" or the varying speed of light.
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  6. Coup d'état

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    I did. But I put it together last summer. I hope you read it all.
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  7. TheBigPayback

    TheBigPayback God Particle

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    Carbon dating is horribly unreliable
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    youre a moron
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  9. Coup d'état

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    You are blind. You words mean nothing.
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  11. Coup d'état

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    trollin is a art
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  12. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    you have my word, i won't.

    i can't see the relation b/w evolution and what happens after we die either.

    coup, i haven't read all the fifty responses you posted, but i will.

    and i will respond to it, in due time.

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  13. Coup d'état

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    cool, looking forward to what you have to say. and it's 5. Why so dramatic ?
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  14. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    in your words, trolling is a art.

    not an, a.

    :numaan:
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  15. Coup d'état

    Coup d'état Don't believe the hype

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    you took the bait.
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  16. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    i read what you said, read to me like misguided passion.

    readable, until the point you claimed christianity to be the truth.

    edit ; there are people who believe in the evolution of mankind, and god aswell.

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  17. Coup d'état

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    Misguided passion was not the intention. I was explaining how evolution is not reality.

    People are fine to believe in it. It only happens in your head. There is not one shred of evidence for evolution. None.

    Thanks for reading though. I trust you did....

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    there is only one truth. And Jesus is the only way.
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  18. Nu'maaN

    Nu'maaN Anu'naki, Nuqqa.

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    trolling is a art.

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  19. TheBigPayback

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    it wouldnt work with islam either if its foundation is the torah.
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    Muslims believe that Ishamael was the son to be sacrificed on the altar by Abraham, but Bible scripture doesn't line up with that lie. It was Issac, the son who was about to be sacrificed. Abraham had already sent Ishmael and Hagar(his mother) away from the camp by then.

    This is why they claim the Bible has been tampered with and also why they claim Yeshua was just a prophet and not GOD in the flesh.
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