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the new testament was written by his apostles
post me in greek please if you know
There are two different original language textual traditions within the Christian world. In the west the Greek is thought to be the original language of the New Testament. The eastern branch of Christianity believes Aramaic was the language used to write the New Testament.
Various analysis on the Eastern Church's Aramaic New Testament suggest quite strongly that the Aramaic is indeed the original language. There are two key reasons cited by those doing the research, and a third that appears important to many:
Translator's Errors introduced in the Greek which don't occur in the Aramaic. Two examples: 1) The Alabaster Jar of perfume that was broken to anoint Jesus before his death was broken at the Potter's house, not the Leper's house, which is completely in keeping with the parable. The vowels are not printed in Aramaic and the Aramaic words for Leper and Potter differ only by vowels. 2) The supposed Camel that can't go through the eye of a needle is in Aramaic a rope. In Aramaic the word for camel also means a common type of rope made from camel's hair. Afordance works in this story in Aramaic while it does not in Greek.
Poetry in the Aramaic that is not in rhyme in the Greek. Just as the English versions of the Psalms are not in rhyme because translators are faithful to meaning, so too, are sections of the Aramaic New Testament in rhyme while the Greek is not. Since Translators can't keep rhyme, they certainly wouldn't introduce rhyme into their translations. The direction must have been Aramaic to Greek.
the new testament was written in ancient greek:
soul not out of disrepst but i will not reply to you any more you have shown no proff no facts and i feel you may be young so i will end replying to you now i can see you are not reading anything and no true faith would want its followers to be dumb and by dumb i mean not reading its own book and understanding only man would want that so they could use the holy book to control people and throw dumb lines made up to keep people in check
Yeah because it's Atheists who have started wars and commited genocides over other people being the wrong religion, right?
Damn you evil Atheists and your God-free lifestyles, don't you realize you need some sort of ancient book to dictate how you should live your lives?!
he was a highly educated man, don't forget that he was considered a rabbi
but the bible says
mat 23 8
8"But you are not to be called 'Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers. 9And do not call anyone on earth 'father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10Nor are you to be called 'teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ. 11The greatest among you will be your servant. 12For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
there are two kinds of Atheists the fool and the evil
the fool truly dose not know and on him god will judge
the evil one know but dont follow out of pride or other things
many times when you ask Atheists if he is gay or was rape by a prist and many human things to change his life from being god fearing the answer is yes
and on these people god will judge because he is the only judge
i get sick of hearing Atheists say dumb things like faith is the reason there is war.
how is that when most wars were over money
most dont know the masons and the new world order started and controled most wars in history after the crusades
like ww2 where the zionist worked with hitler to get isreal
i ask you Atheists name a war over faith
the truth of the matter is Atheists start most wars they attack the fiathful and get there azzez handed to them
look man if you could speak greek we would make a fine conversation,but the english you write are too complex for me.If you have a greek friend to translate then fine.
biblemark are you muslim?whats your religion?
Satan is laughing at you
On Distrusting Thoughts.
Secondly, Elder Paisios tells us that, if we are to grow in love toward our fellow man, we are to cut off those thoughts and feelings which are an offense against love: that is, judgments and resentments. He counseled that "We should never, even under the worst circumstances, allow a negative thought to penetrate our soul. The person, who, under all circumstances, is inclined to have positive thoughts, will always be a winner; his life will be a constant festivity, since it is constantly based on positive thinking" (Priestmonk Christodoulos Aggeloglou, Elder Paisios of the Holy Mountain Mount Athos, Greece, 1998, p. 31).
One of Elder Paisios’ spiritual sons recalls, "Elder Paisios always urged us to think positively. Our positive thinking, however, should not be our ultimate aim; eventually our soul must be cleansed from our positive thoughts as well, and be left bare, having as its sole vestment Divine Grace granted to us through Holy Baptism. ‘This is our aim,’ he used to say, ‘to totally submit our mind to the Grace of God. The only thing Christ is asking from us is our humility. The rest is taken care of by His Grace.
"‘In the beginning, we should willingly try to develop positive thoughts, which will gradually lead us to the perfect good, God, to Whom belongs all glory, honor and worship. On the contrary, to us belongs only the humility of our conceited attitude’ " (Ibid., p. 29).
Elder Paisios’ teachings on thoughts and inner watchfulness, drawn from his own profound experience in the spiritual life, are particularly crucial for us who have been formed by modern Western culture. Because he spent so much time listening to people (both monastic and lay) and helping them with their problems, Elder Paisios became acutely aware of the various spiritual diseases afflicting modern Western man. Above all, he recognized — and sought to treat — the most prevalent disease: rationalism. Although the modern rationalist worldview was born in Western Europe during the Enlightenment era, it has progressively been inundating the entire world, including Orthodox lands such as Greece. Therefore, when Elder Paisios speaks to the spiritual malady of rationalism in contemporary Greece, he is also speaking to our spiritual malady in America and the West.
Ultimately, the malady of modern rationalism comes down to one essential ingredient: trusting the conclusions of one’s logical mind. We of the modern West have been raised with an underlying assumption, summed up in the well-known phrase of Rene Descartes at the beginning of the Enlightenment era: "I think, therefore I am." The worldview of modern rationalism, having lost an awareness of the immortal soul in man, leads us to believe that our thoughts are v/ho we are, and, conversely, that we are the sum total of our thoughts. Therefore, we automatically feel that we have to trust our thoughts, to take a stand for them, to defend them as we would our own flesh and blood.
This is the essential fallacy of the modern worldview. It is precisely by placing absolute trust in the formulations of the fallen human mind — rather than in divine revelation — that modern Western man has come to water down or abandon his once-cherished Christian Faith. We Orthodox Christians living in the West must act against this influence by refusing to accord outright trust to our thoughts.
Elder Paisios teaches: "The devil does not hunt after those who are lost; he hunts after those who are aware, those who are close to God. He takes from them trust in God and begins to afflict them with self-assurance, logic, thinking, criticism. Therefore we should not trust our logical minds. Never believe your thoughts.
"Live simply and without thinking too much, like a child with his father. Faith without too much thinking works wonders. The logical mind hinders the Grace of God and miracles. Practice patience without judging with the logical mind."
Elsewhere Elder Paisius counseled: "We ought always to be careful and be in constant hesitation about whether things are really as we think. For when someone is constantly occupied with his thoughts and trusts in them, the devil will manage things in such a way that he will make the man evil, even if by nature he was good.
"The ancient fathers did not trust their thoughts at all, but even in the smallest things, when they had to give an answer, they addressed the matter in their prayer, joining to it fasting, in order in some way to ‘force’ Divine Grace to inform them what was the right answer according to God. And when they received the ‘information,’ they gave the answer.
"Today I observe that even with great matters, when someone asks, before he has even had the time to complete his question, we interrupt him and answer him. This shows that not only do we not seek enlightenment from the Grace of God, but we do not even judge with the reason God gave us. On the contrary, whatever our thoughts suggest to us, immediately, without hesitation, we trust it and consent to it, often with disastrous results.
"Almost all of us view thoughts as being something simple and natural, and that is why we naively trust them. However, we should neither trust them nor accept them.
"Thoughts are like airplanes flying in the air. If you ignore them, there is no problem. If you pay attention to them, you create an airport inside your head and permit them to land!" (Ibid., pp. 29-30, 48).
Maybe I would care if "Satan" wasn't an imaginary red guy with horns and a pitch fork.
Religion is a crutch by which people live.
don't be so sure.i used ot be atheist too.i know what am telling to you.And satan is not like that,nobody metnion him like that,he is symbolized like that.By the way do you know anything about metaphysics?You make 'satan' the happiest in the world right now.
Is CNN evil? It shows all the evil of the world.
Is art evil? Any violent painting or one with naked figures?
Is Al Pacino evil cuz he played a gangster in Godfather or Scarface?
It's art, it's not real. And when it is real, like when a MC is pointing out what's happening in the projects these fucking self righteous christians should listen and be real christians and try to help. Not critisize him for bringing attention to it cuz it isn't pretty.
It's so idiotic. Snoop or 2Pac raps about drugs, guns and his dead homies and he's a "gangsta rapper". Is Al Pacino or Marlon Brando a "gangster actor"? NO. They're just actors period. People are stupid as fuck.
If it was up to these radical lunatics there would be no art, no movies or anything that isn't related to jesus and their belifs. Makes me sick.
i agree with you on something,christians should ppray love and want the good for others,and cry fot them if they are in the wrong road.Jesus Christ said 'Do not judge so you won't be judged".
i agree with you on something,christians should pray love and want the good for others,and cry fot them if they are in the wrong road.Jesus Christ said 'Do not judge so you won't be judged".
Well.. I aim to please..
I don't care who you are you have NO RIGHT to call athiests evil people.
YOU MAY NOT BE RIGHT. Religion could all be fake. No you are not 100% sure that God or Allah is real. You can never be 100% sure of supernatural forces because you have never seen them or been influenced by them BEYOND A REAONSABLE DOUBT.
You may say "oh God speaks to me". You are not 100% sure that is God. I hear voices in my head at night too, that doesn't mean the lord is speaking to me.
How dare you call somone evil because they don't believe in what you believe. YOU could be wrong and stupid because you worshipped a fake God your entire life and it turns out to be nothing at all. Then athiests could all point and laugh at your for being dumb enough to believe in this all.
You could be right and you can point and laugh when the athiest are condemed to hell for disbelieving in the lord.
Its 50/50 PERIOD. Either you are right or they are right. YOU ARE NO MORE SURE THAT THERE IS A GOD THEN THEY ARE SURE THAT THERE ISNT ONE.
I hate people like you. You give religion a bad name because it makes nonbelievers think that all religious people have the same elitist thoughts as you.
You are the reason so many people hate religious people.
Im agnostic, I believe in a higher power, I have no set religion. You don't see me calling Christians and Jews and Muslims evil do you.
Thats right. Christianity is right and EVERYONE ELSE is wrong. EVERYONE but Christians will burn in hell.
If your God would really preach this message to you then I want nothing to do with him or his teachings.
you owe an apology.
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