Can u give one example of

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  1. TheBigPayback

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    A genetic mutation or evolutionary process that can be seen to 'increase' information or the information already present in the genome.
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    Time to start treating the Search option as you do imaginary beings from books of unicorns and use it religiously in the same fashion.

    But then again, explaining anything to someone who's got no real intention of discussing would be the equivalent of throwing diamonds at swill.
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  3. TheBigPayback

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    He'll u blabbing about?
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  4. Sir Bustalot

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    i dont know, i dont study or research this shit at all ever.
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  5. GaLaTeA

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    I know, I know, I'd have to speak ghetto for you to comprehend.
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  6. TheBigPayback

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    Its really very simple. can u or smartass (gala) provide an example of any evolutionary process where information is gained rather than lost. evolution implies that we should see this happening but in every case we can study the only thing we see is information loss. My question to gala was to name one. she perfers to talk about the loss of information in reagurds to the search forum feature.
    As true as that may be..
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    Yeah, remember this thread - http://rapmusic.com/threads/lets-discuss-fossils.1362562/ - remember how 2 individuals took the time to explain things to you and you never actually intended on carrying a discussion?

    Yeah, me too.
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  8. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    no i cant, i have enough homework already and honestly dont care
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  9. Sir Bustalot

    Sir Bustalot I am Jesus

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    maybe reggie will do this for ya
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    It'll be a waste of his time as well..
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    Gal is smart ass. :hoffagrin:
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  12. reggie jax

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    what do you mean by gaining information
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    for example when we look at what happens with dog breeding
    its a loss of genetic information that creates the specific breeds
    so what began as a wolf ended up a poodle by a loss of information

    can u provide an example where something gains information
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    more like a reaction of insecurity
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    i'm not sure i understand why dog breeding is a loss of genetic information. can you be more specific in regard to what you consider 'information' in this case and how it is lost / gained?
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  16. Sir Bustalot

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    i think hes saying that the wolf, to become a poodle, had to lose some genetic info to get to the poodle. It lost its wolf genes....

    but i dont know why its not that the wolf "gained info" to become a poodle. But i have little to know understanding of how it works so im not claiming to know.

    seems like a half empty/half full thing.
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  17. GaLaTeA

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    Posts like these mirror your own self, omega..
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  18. GaLaTeA

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    Wolf genes would be overly dominant..
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  19. reggie jax

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    what i'm thinking is for wolves to become poodles and other types of domestic dogs, the selective pressure would have to change to value different types of traits than those valued for wolf populations in nature.

    previously their genes were selected based on survival in nature. now they are selected based on the characteristics that humans value in pets, which includes tameness and submissiveness, something that is not a good trait for wild wolves to have.

    so you could take the existing wolf gene pool and derive a tamer, less naturally fit version of the wolf by selecting for traits that are useful for domestication but not useful in nature.

    http://www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/genetics-of-dog-breeding-434

    as to whether this is a gain or a loss in information, i would guess that it's neither. the genome has changed, and in doing so it is better suited to the environment in which the animals live. but if the genome is the same size then it seems like the same amount of information to me. the information has changed, not increased. i could be wrong about that, that's just how i think about it.

    so again, BP, i'm asking you what you mean by information and what you would consider to be an increase in information. do you mean an increase in the size of the genome? do you mean a completely new gene that didn't exist before arising through a mutation?
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    he's always been like that and will forever remain as such.

    i swear if he rocked up to my house on some jehovah's witness shit, i'd blow his mind, no homo, no terrorist.

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