If rap isn't music (says a few patrons of rapmusic.com) ...then how about you take the so called simple formula and make your own rap record. Let's see how it stands. I understand folks on here like arguing for the sake of arguing, and that's what it seems like you (thread starter) are doing. Just because you cannot appreciate Hip Hop does not make it trash. And I haven't come across not a one person on rapmusic.com who is enough of an authority to argue the origins of music. It seems to me that this is all a matter of taste. You can like what you like without offending entire cultures. All this animosity toward Black folks sounds like a bitter self pity party. Perhaps that is what makes you feel better about yourself...and the world rotates with or without...so hey...do you.