b r a h's 100 fave films!

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  1. Brahman

    Brahman Mel Van Peebles

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    konscious: how did you find the acting in boogie nights cheesy? i thought it was one of the greatest ensemble acting pieces i've ever seen. the characterizations could be thought of as cheesy (though i'd disagree with that notion, too) but not the acting used to depict them as it was very authentic in my eyes.

    pyro: yeah, there are a ton of films i still need to see. this has probably been the longest stretch i've gone without watching a movie since i started to become serious about following the art (sept. 10th, 2003). y tu mama tambien? eh, i like and respect it a lot, but it just didn't resonate like an all-time fave. it'd have to be in the next 25 listed for sure.

    the jeus: haha, i actually like the suggestions

    gets a little back n forth going
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  2. Pyro Tecknik

    Pyro Tecknik Harbinger of DOOM

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    for those of us with little to no knowledge of japanese history/politics....the ending would be pretty weak.

    and i will criticize any list made without having made one myself all i want, he knows whats up....besides, i don't have the discipline nor the fortitude to make a top 100 list right now.
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  3. SadistiK1

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    Youd love El Topo man, also check out Santa Sangre.. Jodorowskys movies are filled with artsy symbols and beautiful scenery, weird ass characters, etc... An acid trip would probably describe it well like you said haha
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  4. Brahman

    Brahman Mel Van Peebles

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    konscious, one more point to add about boogie nights

    i don't see how it could be viewed as overrated unless you're talking specifically about the people who champion it, because it's definitely not as a whole. including the mainstream and general moviegoing public, its filmmaking quality gets overlooked and loses a lot of appeal/attention due to its subject matter.
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  5. Krighst

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    I do agree with Jackie Brown...great movie, but in that list, eh...

    Help me to understand why National Lampoon's Vacation is on there, but Casino is not.

    I would like to add "M" to that list.
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    word

    ill check up on the ones i havent seen out of that
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  7. The Jeus

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    Well right, but anyone who says the ending is "pretty weak" is an idiot so it would be no surprise for them to have little to no knowledge of japanese history/politics...though I don't know why you raised that point.

    I thought it could've been stronger. Without giving too much away, hopefully, I think it would've been better if the film had stayed neutral, as opposed to so clearly advocating one moral code over the other in the end.
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  8. menaz

    menaz Avant Garde

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    No, ichi the killer ? No, master of the flying guillotine? No, game of death?
    No, donnie brasco? No, cool hand luke? No, One flew over the cuckoo's nest?

    Casino is Some of joe pesci's best work, Very odd not to include it. Fight club coming from you I understand, Because I believe hardly noone here relates to that movie as much as I do. Trainning day, was a stunning dramatized realistic cop film, pointing out the morals of two different men and police corruption, Denzile even won the award for his acting (which I agree with). Dead presidents, Is Ironic, and a great movie that shows how the emotional state of american GI's post their tour in vietname gave them the tools to pull off a Bank robbery.




    I really have to question casino, because its a hell of alot better than family vaction.
    Sometimes, I think you just don't include these movies because they're common choices.
    But that totally underminds the fact They're still Epic films.

    But it is your list.
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  9. Konscious

    Konscious Resident Sage

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    Good point... I just want to criticize it, I guess. When you mentioned "great ensemble acting," I thought of Seinfeld, so disregard my comment about the acting.

    But I could almost make the same critique of BN that you make of Fight Club... that it was heavy-handed in its message and style, but maybe that was the point?.. the premise is fighting, which can be blunt, violent and in-your-face... just like the cheesy and absurd excess of porn and '70s culture. They're both overly stylish... yet you revere one and condemn the other.
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  10. Konscious

    Konscious Resident Sage

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    I don't overlook the filmmaking quality... I just don't know if I would call it the best film from the '90s.

    Goodfellas was a powerhouse of a movie... a film loved by critics, casual moviegoers and other filmmakers... that's a RARE achievement in cinema these days.
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  11. Konscious

    Konscious Resident Sage

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    menaz, I think you overrate the premise of Training Day, instead of analyzing the overall film experience, which was very cliche'd and over-the-top in my opinion. I thought it could've been executed and written better. Yes, Denzel ripped it, as usual... and so did Ethan Hawke... but one or two great acting performance does not a great film make... (see "The Hurricane")
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  12. Pyro Tecknik

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    because you said the ending could have been, "stronger"....i suppose it's my mistake for assuming you were one of those, "idiots" as you so aptly put it.

    but also for those potential "idiots" who plan on watching it....so they are at least aware of that much.
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  13. *Iceman*

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    never seen cannonball run?????

    the fuck????

    Burt Reynolds continually smacking the shit out of Dom DeLoiuse(sp?) as the credits roll?

    Shit i might have to make my own list..

    I dont think i have to motivation to put forth such effort though
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  14. Brahman

    Brahman Mel Van Peebles

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    i'd like to thank everyone for generating this discussion and, thus far, keeping it fairly mature


    konscious:

    i don't see the parallel you're trying to draw between fight club and boogie nights. they're two films that go in completely different directions in delivering their respective messages. fc is infinitely more pop-philosophy-pamphlet in how it verbosely makes its statements while bn simply and objectively depicts a rise-and-fall within an industry where "stardom" can be short-lived or ruined by a couple of decisions requiring the viewer to draw their own conclusions. i don't see bn as being anywhere near "overly stylish" either. again, the culture and environment depicted may be overly stylish, but the direction and cinematography are very sophisticated and economic.



    krighst:

    how did national lampoon's vacation make it over casino? well, i felt it simply achieved its purpose as a comedy better than casino did as a mob film. i hate comparing comedies to dramas anyway, because dramas tend to always have the upperhand. serious subjects just lend themselves to more acceptance as "superior" art. casino isn't one of scorsese's best, imo. keep in mind that i did say it had consideration, but i felt that all the scorsese films i chose were better and represented what i like most about his work. in this, his direction comes off a little clumsy as i can almost detect his anger over not winning for goodfellas in it. it's like he heard all the praise of it being a great and snubbed film that he wanted to take the elements of pileggi's other story and blow them up even further (longer, even more brutal violence, an even more hysterical woman, etc.) and expect that it would get the same or even better reception. it's still a good and entertaining film though.



    menaz:

    - ichi the killer? never seen.
    - master of the flying guillotine? very fun and lovable (you peeped the avy i'm sure), but i'd prefer to watch everything listed before it.
    - game of death? [funny][funny][funny]!
    - donnie brasco? underachieving film. casino would get the next spot before it. loved al pacino's lefty however.
    - cool hand luke? never seen. i'm a paul newman fan though (see the hustler and hud)
    - one flew over the cuckoo's nest? very good, but didn't end up being a favorite

    see my response to krighst for casino vs. national lampoon's vacation. and, who cares if it is some of joe pesci's best work? what does that mean? joe pesci doesn't exactly have that stunning of a resume to choose from. his performance in goodfellas is stuff that legends are made of, and he simply reprised that character in a film that was made inferiorly.

    why mention what training day and dead presidents are about? i know what they were about. similar to what konscious said about one/two good performance(s), being about interesting subjects doesn't a great film make. td wasn't even realistic anyway. want realism and documentary-like depictions of police procedures? peep serpico and the french connection. td is rife with artificial showiness.

    you say you think i don't include titles because they're common choices. well, i get the impression that you get too excited about films when they're simply about subjects you like, made by filmmakers you like, star actors you like, and filled with snappy (bordering on or spilling over to unnecessary) dialogue. as long as those ingredients are there, you wouldn't pay much attention to other aspects of filmmaking.
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  15. SadistiK1

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    Wow @ Menaz... Im a huge Miike fan and love Ichi the Killer but to imply his list is ridiculous for not haveing Ichi the fuckin killer listed is stupid. Game of Death? Training Day is average as hell. Where the hell do you come up with these?

    And on a sidenote Fight Club is grossly overrated. Fight Club, Boondock Saints, Matrix, and Donnie Darko are blown horribly out of proportion in my opinion.
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  16. Nam Dekan

    Nam Dekan i got a tip in my pocket

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    also no revenge of the nerds
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  17. The Jeus

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    let 'em know sadistik, let em know
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  18. Brahman

    Brahman Mel Van Peebles

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    ^ i bought the deluxe edition dvd of body heat today

    it's one of my dad's all-time faves

    edit: sports a brand new lawrence kasdan-approved transfer that pumps new life into its visual beauty
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  19. Brahman

    Brahman Mel Van Peebles

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    nevermind
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  20. Nam Dekan

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    body heat

    that sounds sexxy


    Caged Heat was a pretty good Skinemax movie
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