ARSONAL vs PAT STAY...lets have a FORMAL DEBATE (OMG!!!)

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  1. Get 2 Da Choppa

    Get 2 Da Choppa Well-Known Member

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    iight lets have a formal debate as to who won arsonal or pat stay

    please keep it professional here and no cursing or swearing

    here's the battle:



    in ur post state ur position, and u could either rebuttal the post of someone else or provide a new argument as to why u think that person won

    i'll start it off:

    my position on this battle is that arsonal won 3 rounds to 0

    my rationale: arsonal easily had better delivery and swag than pat stay

    his punchlines were amazing but they werent designed for reaction by the bias white canadian crowd who were rooting for their fellow native pat stay

    arsonal was more personal: talked about pat leaving hollohan to fend off goons by himself, and his previous lines and etc

    pat stay was mostly stating lies and fiction in his lines. best shooters are the white guys? no the best shooters are black and also american...which made that line irrelevant

    i'll use more arguments to rebuttal some of the ones u ppl bring up whe u inevitably say that pat stay won

    so...wats ur position? (remember to keep it profanity free and children friendly)
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  2. KingFly

    KingFly *K.O.T.D.*

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    to me it didnt seem like pat even wanted to battle when i seen it live. he just wasnt on his game. arsonal put on a good performance and spit more, so it made it stick out more. live i thought ars edged it.
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  3. itslinx

    itslinx Unngghh!!

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    My vote is for Canada obviously.
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  4. Troy504

    Troy504 T. Riley-GTGA

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    I prefer the rapping type over the jokers, and Ars did rap circles around pat

    But Ars also had corny lines, like the whole "10 ways to kill a canadian"
    I say Ars edged it. Pat wasnt weak or anything though.
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  5. My Name Is Bob

    My Name Is Bob New Member

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    Arsonal won imo
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  6. Laugh N' Stalk

    Laugh N' Stalk Well-Known Member

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    Pat Stay held his own. Changing his rhymes on the fly to adjust to Arsonal changing it to promo, the fake kryptonite line. He did not get bodied at all.
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  7. omniscientone

    omniscientone New Member

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    Get your facts right. It was always PROMO ask Bishop or Organic
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  8. Water_Mage

    Water_Mage Well-Known Member

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    This post is coming from a canadian pat stay fan who "doesnt like the look of" arsonal

    I think pat is only comfortable battling rappers that he thinks he is FAR ABOVE... imagine this.. a warrior who ONLY got excited for clashing swords with ppl that he knos he can beat without it being a challenge...

    ..well thats pat... the only other battler hes ever faced that is on his level was HOLLOHAN but that was still within pat's comfort zone becuz theyve been homies for so long...

    i used 2 think pat stay was the king of swag (LUSH UNO AS WELL, LUSH ONE STILL GOT IT)

    so Pat Stays power is dependent on swag & delivery but he loses his swag when he actually faces a decent opponent.. geez i could have heaps of swag too if i only battled ppl like G DUBLE and CRONIK
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  9. Troy504

    Troy504 T. Riley-GTGA

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    4:48-5:10
    from like 4:59-5:10 i think every word just rhymed with each.

    May be one of my favorite displays of "rapping" in a battle.
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  10. SKATTERBRAIN

    SKATTERBRAIN U R a L

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    hahahahaha
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  11. BLAZE-WON

    BLAZE-WON GOD BODY

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    Ars took it. And lets be fair...about everyone claiming Ars had some corny lines...Pat had just as many corny lines to match

    It was close but Ars def outrapped Pat and thats what it comes down to. The lines were pretty even
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  12. Get 2 Da Choppa

    Get 2 Da Choppa Well-Known Member

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    fake crip tonight/kryptonite is so played out it aint funny

    i heard that line back in 2001

    here it is in a buncha text battles back in early 2000's:

    Rhyme Battling 101 | Punchlines, Wordplay & Multis | Facebook

    ^scroll down to WORD FISSION:

    then there's this one:

    Best punchline ever!

    ^scroll down SeamyC's post

    then there's this one:

    TOP 10 rapper PUNCHLINES [Archive] - ANOTHA.com - Hip Hop Forum

    ^first post

    then big boi and purple ribbon made a song of it and 500k views and a gold hit





    AND THEN PAT STAY SAYS IT AND CANADIAN CROWD GOES CRAZY!

    lmao come on really and now u quoting it saying it was a dope line?

    yeah maybe in 2000 when papoose said it

    it was bitten but uneducated battle rap fans like you and the audience at the venue dont know any better
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  13. Panda...

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    Arsonal won because Pat Stay beat himself. (pause)
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  14. BLAZE-WON

    BLAZE-WON GOD BODY

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    @choppa while i agree it was a played out punchline...Pat used it in a very good context

    Everyone clowns Ars for being a fake crip so i think it fit. but yeah it's been used
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  15. BLAZE-WON

    BLAZE-WON GOD BODY

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    BTW the "sounded like CHip Foo having a Big Poop" needs to be candidate for one of the worst lines of the year.
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  16. Get 2 Da Choppa

    Get 2 Da Choppa Well-Known Member

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    pat stay is also a phony

    here's his post b4 hitman vs arsonal dropped:

    http://board.rapmusic.com/battle-vi...urda-mook-soul-khan-etc-2.html#post1067869319

    and then in his battle he drops 2 spongebob lines

    come on man why u so fake?

    and arsonal won the rebuttal department in the battle...'so i beat that nigga to death with squidwards clarinet...cuz i felt as though he lived a spongebob...patrick life'

    pat name is patrick and patrick star is a character in spongebob

    thats a perfect rebuttal no one arguing with that

    pat stay claim he a sucka free bawse but he the biggest diva i seen

    stating u aint gon watch hitman vs ars and then watching it and using hitman's concepts and re-using bus driver concepts conceited used on arsonal in 2009? and then diz called ars a diva for claimin he won every battle and pat stay re-used that too? and calling him a crip conceited used that also (tales of the crypt...watts deal wit a light bulb, etc...)
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  17. RegularJoe

    RegularJoe Well-Known Member

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    Arsonal got it. Better performance made up for somewhat weak content, especially when compared with similarly weak content from Pat's side.

    That said, we've had this discussion quite a few times on here already Choppa. I don't think you're going to get the response you're hoping for out of this thread ... a large portion of the posters on here who would normally disagree with you on a topic like this are on your side.
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  18. Get 2 Da Choppa

    Get 2 Da Choppa Well-Known Member

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    pat stay: 'even in basketball the best shooters are the white guys"

    really?

    top 3 in the 3 point contest were: ray allen, paul peirce, and james jones

    ^all black


    top 2 free throw % this year are chauncey billups and stephen curry

    ^both black

    top 7 in field gold % (millsap, amir johnson, ibaka, and 4 more niggaz) are black

    no matter which shooters u look at the best are black

    that made pat stay's line irrelevant
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  19. SenSIthreadS

    SenSIthreadS New Member

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    i gotta agree with the chop man. arsonal took this battle. he had so much more energy, was so much more brutal and most importantly he was rapping. pat had a few good lines, but he came off as arogant and i didn't like how he paused after each medicore line waiting for the bowzak riders to get going. ars all day.
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  20. BLAZE-WON

    BLAZE-WON GOD BODY

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    hahhhHAHAHHAHA choppa is back and out for blood
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