a MOTHERFUCKING LIAR... I rolled up about 7-8g's in a dutch last night and there is NO WAY in FUCKING HELL anyone could roll more then 10 grams, shit I don't even know how you roll more then 8 grams. My herb was broke up from a mini coffee grinder blender to, so it was perfectly cut up... it was literally end to end packed and side to side packed... The little flap of tobacco you roll over to stick itself together was literally like 1/3 the length of your fingernail, if not less....I could BARELY fold it over. I kept having to press all the bud together but it just couldn't compact anymore... Who's that motherfucker in here who says he rolled a 1/2 ounce. That's complete fucking bullshit.