anybody not recognizing Nas as the greatest lyricist in hip-hop's history of a fuckin

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  1. TWAMP$iN

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    that was fucking beautiful.





    *sniff*
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  2. TWAMP$iN

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    LMMMFAO

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  3. reggie_jax

    reggie_jax rapper noyd

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    i think he forgot about the part where rap lyrics are supposed to rhyme
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  4. snowy

    snowy 39k Rap Song Music Folder

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    They do rhyme, maybe you should read them again.
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  5. reggie_jax

    reggie_jax rapper noyd

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    they rhyme about as much as the average poem

    the lyrics lack any sense of song structure.. it's basically just an unstructured def poetry jam session dubbed over mediocre beats. maybe sage should specialise in freeverse poetry instead of trying to rap
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  6. Hank.

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    hahhahahahah

    sage francis is pathetic

    his aim is SAGEkillz if any1 wants to insult him.
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  7. Trey M

    Trey M \.=.

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    haha...
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  8. .:Pain:.

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    lmao do I gotta break down everything for you fuckin' idiots?

    Coming live from my own funeral...the beautiful weather offered a nice shine
    Which is suitable for a full view of a forever altered skyline
    It's times like these I freestyle biased opinions every other sentence
    My journalistic ethics slip when I pass them off as objective
    "Don't gimme that ethical shit."
    I've got exclusive, explicit images to present to impressionable American kids
    And it's time to show this world how big our edifice is!

    That's exactly what they attacked when a typically dark skinned Disney villain
    Used civilians against civilians and charged the trojan horses into our buildins
    Using commercial aviation as instruments of destruction
    Pregnant women couldn't protect their children
    Wheelchairs were stairway obstructions
    Now I have to back pedal...from the shower of glass and metal
    Wondering how after it settles we'll find who provided power to radical rebelsThe Melting Pot seems to be calling the kettle black when it boils over
    But only on our own soil so the little boy holds a toy soldier..
    And waits for the suit and tie to come home. We won't wait 'til he's older
    Before we destroy hopes for a colder war to end
    "Now get a close up of his head..."

    God you people really are a bunch of fuckin idiots.

    PS Hank, I only like about 3 Sage Francis songs, I'm just not a fuckin' idiot and can respect talent when I see it...
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  9. .:Pain:.

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    PS WTF do you know about song structure? Really though. Cuz here I was, a songwriter, having taken classes in creative writing particularly songwriting, as well as having done extensive independent research on the matter, thinkin' that his structure works just fine, esp. when you hear the fuckin' song...
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  10. TWAMP$iN

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    A Healthy Distrust > these wack kids opinions on Sage
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  11. Hank.

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    any1 who likes sage is probably lame and pathetic as him.
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  12. TWAMP$iN

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    and your name is "Hank"... riiiiiiiiiight
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  13. Hank.

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    dead @ sage francis being 42 and still tryna make it.

    [funny]

    time to retire u shit cunt.
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  14. TWAMP$iN

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    "shit cunt"? wow.

    yeah, the name "Hank" definitely fits you.
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  15. MistaChipz

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    woooord the fuck up....

    sage is dope, just not a dope emcee....
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  16. TWAMP$iN

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    maybe that's why he started out battle rapping...
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  17. MistaChipz

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    ...you being a songwriter doesnt mean you automatically "know more"...and who's says you're a good songwriter, you? please, that's all subjective...what are the qualifications for being a songwriter? seems like anyone who writes a song can claim to be one...you did research on what? how to write a song with soul? in my opinion that's exactly what some of these underground dudes lack, soul....its like a white boy who can't dance, these dude flow stiff over beats using an approach that sounds alot closer to spoken word structure than a song structure...when I say song structure I mean flowing inside of the beat's pockets, and actually riding a beat with some sort of rhythmn.....and no, Im not an idiot because I dont agree with you.....
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  18. reggie_jax

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    i know that sentence doesn't rhyme with objective.... which is apparently more than your class can teach you
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  19. NinjaMic

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    You know... Nas is one of my favorites and always has been, but Ras Kass said in one song (Nature of the Threat) what it took Nas his whole last album to say, and that was 12 years ago. Pac was sayin' shit at 18, introspectively, socially and politically that Nas didn't start sayin' til 2001. Wu as a whole, had enlightening the masses on lock but because they're more cryptic in the kaballah realm of thought and slang intense/context sensitive it isn't as impressionable. Common has been holdin' it down for the consciouss thought side of things as a monster lyricist, all while being true to himself.

    Nas is a successful Rakim... and I respect him for being the Last Real Nigga Alive, and being the last bastion for real, early 90's lyrical thought in the mainstream. I feel he is answering his calling, something he feels he needs to do... and carrying the game for heads like me. All in all, his career and discography is immense now, but blemished. Who's perfect though? If we wanna talk consistency I'll talk Ghostface, if we wanna talk importance and impact I'll talk Pac. He'll be in my top 5, regardless of wether he fits the bill 100% or not.

    A part time lyricist I respect that has no real importance, but since everybody's bringing in their favorite nobodies... is Lauryn Hill. Unplugged is the deepest, most thought provoking material I own and when she does that Year of the Dragon, Zealots, Final Hour thing... it's perfect to me.
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    You're right, you're not an idiot because you don't agree with me, you're an idiot because you're a fucking idiot. We were talking about song structure right? I did research on song structure smart stuff. Song structure isn't about flow and rhythm, it's about how the song is set up over the beat, when the beat switches, the lyrics switch, aka chorus n shit. So obviously anyways you don't know shit about song structure, so let's just drop that. Sage's flow on that song mimicks Big L's early flow of quick spitting then suddenly slowing down, and jumping back and forth between the two types of flow. Do yourself a favor and listen to the song before you choke on your foot...
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