Any Christians up to the challenge of debunking my lame, yet crafty argument?

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  1. TheBigPayback

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    adam and eve were children of God. After sin entered the world the lineage of adam down were born sinners. Which is why being born agai is nessicary.
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    by his own words. God with us.
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    That doesn't make sense. How can you be a sinner without even being given the opportunity to sin? That logic is completely flawed. Basically, you're telling me the God of the Bible, who is supposed to be this loving, benevolent god, has damned us all from the beginning? And he wants us to struggle and avoid all of the fun things in life just to get to his kingdom after we die? That seems a little maniacal, like we're the guinea pigs of some omnipresent scientist's experiment.

    Also, could you shed light on my other questions?
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    Atheism is growing far more than your stupid fucking CUNT OF A FALSE RELIGION and in 50 years, DEM STOOOOOOPID JEEEEESUS FUCKS will be in the minority. In 200 years, your shit stained religion will be forgotten and history will show you for the racist degenerates you were.
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  5. Nu'maaN

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    everyone being born into sin, does NOT make sense. at all. and never will.

    why would god create us, as sinners? think about it.

    we don't have enough logic or comprehension until we reach a certain age (which differs for everyone), and to be called a sinner you have to have KNOWINGLY commited a sin. if you're that young, born into this world, you can barely define colours let alone be able to differentiate between sins and good deeds. see how silly it sounds to be born in sin.

    no one's born into sin, we're all born innocent.

    i still await memento's response ...

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  6. Nu'maaN

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    it's a different story with the qur'an.

    since it's compilation (which might i add was in the lifetime of the prophet), not one single vowel/word/letter has been changed.

    not one ...

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    just like alchoalism gets in your genes. Adams sin is in our genes- ex. Selfishness which was adams orig sin
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    which is why good works wont get you into heaven. Jesus being the only innocent shed blood covered that sin
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    if biblical trsnslations dont translate to ennglish u refer to the original hebrew.
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    Actually it was written in greek
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    I really dont see why yall are making this so tough...the reason why children r born into sin is because we dont live in the sam perfect world that God created for adam and eve. Children are born into sin because the world is imperfect and they arent born free of sickness.
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    due to server issues, alot of posts disappeared from this thread.

    I had said before, in response to numaan, that I took being "born into sin" to mean that human nature is naturally flawed, and we need to turn to god to overcome this. he responded that people are born innocent, and it's harsh to accuse everyone before they can differentiate between right and wrong - or something to that effect, correct me if im wrong nu. I had meant to get back but I got busy with offline stuff, and now the thread got rolled back.

    If I quoted you correctly, I would argue that although babies know no wrong, it is inevitable that a fully cognizant human will have flaws and shortcomings. and that's why, according to christianity, you have to turn to god.

    christian theologians might have a more specific interpretation of being born into sin. but that's my view on the concept.
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    I wish even more of this thread disappeared considering how quickly it went off topic and made me abandon it completely. Can't believe you all want a religion forum on this site when a single thread turns into an entire forum for religious discussion anyway.
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    Thats the plan bub. If they wont give us a religon forum well make this the religon forum. Aint like anybody posting anything but religous an conspiracy threads here anyways.
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    Exactly so why the fuck bother keeping all this shit confined into a single thread? Use the New Thread button.
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    11-29-2010, 04:14 AM #2 (permalink)
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    As someone who has only read Genesis and Revelations of the Bible, I really have no knowledge of the other scriptures' contents. So I'm wondering how exactly is every man and woman born as a sinner? Seems a little crazy to label the most underdeveloped beings of our species as sinners.

    Also, how exactly can anyone honestly trust the contents of any religious texts considering how ancient they are? When you take into consideration how corrupt man has always been, how do you know that these texts are legit? How do you know that these texts have not been altered or skewed into the opinions of the men who wrote them?

    If God is a benevolent god, then why would he be so hellbent on casting us to hell just because he entered our presence?
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    this thread was like 4x as long b4 the server issues as a discussion i havent confined anything
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    Everyone in this thread has confined all sorts of dribble in this thread that has nothing to do with the original topic.
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    The original topic was about satan and adams disobediance to God in terms of christian beliefs, yes some other topics came up but in general thats been the discussion. My explination that we are born into sin as decendants of adam was just that an why. There would be no need for salvation if we were born into sainthood. Life is about working towards righteousness not being righteous and God diabolically trying to thwart us to maintain it.
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